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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 412118" data-attributes="member: 167">True, true.But if you want to say, that's enough to keep one's rank in inhuman domain of evil for aons, centuries, whatever, feels a bit absurb to me to compare it some movie character, with much more easy life.((Or maybe not absurb, considering, that they made planes 'more kind' for lower level characters in 3rd edition.))Naturally there might be those exceptions, but Graz'zt was not priorly described weaker, than some of those fellow lords. This is issue, and the fact that gods (or tiamat&bahamut) are so far removed in 3rd edition from demon/devil lords (or animal/elemental-lords for that matter), compared to how they apperead in 1st edition.And some of us have games dating from those times, and seemingly random (or 2nd edition based, perhaps) changes make me wonder. Oh, then again, after seeing clerics without gods getting high level spells, I don't really wonder anything.Plus I have a lot of free time currenly to write crap like this here in net, instead of doing something useful. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>