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Message: <blockquote data-quote="herald" data-source="post: 412718" data-attributes="member: 1112">Upper Krust said I'm sure I didn't miss anthing on the FAQ that you should be pendantic on the board. Oh no, I'm sure pretty sure that they can actually justify them, weather you like it or not is up to you. Any way you slice it though, it's justified. Ah, but that's where you arguement starts to fail. You see FR follows a completly differant cosmology. The planes follow a "Great Tree" instead of a "Great Wheel" concept. The only way these cosmologies intersect is at the "Shadow Plane" (Provided that you use this optional rule) All planes that share the same name are infact seperate and differant. At this point the realms have no direct connection to the typical planescape campaign setting as originally presented. You use real world presedents? Are you telling me that you've visited the real Abyss? (Nevermind, I don't want to know)The fact is that politics can work in the abyss and it does. Grazzat for could play both ends against the middle, which would make more sense than anything. He could hamstring his opponents into thinking that other threats exist that prevent his removal. Whatever you choose as an explination is fine. Insisting that stats balance what roleplaying should be able to explain is rather pointless.</blockquote>