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Message: <blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 412796" data-attributes="member: 812">But you have to believe me when I tell you something. Even if I point behind you and say, "Look out!" you're only going to turn around and check if you think I'm at least trustworthy enough to not be de facto trying to fool you.That's not very trustworthy, I'll admit, but the basic point is that deception is only possible if one party trusts the other. In fact, I'd almost define deception as gaining the trust of someone under false pretenses.Since, if you have any brain at all, you KNOW that a demon is bound to betray you as soon as it suits him, why would you trust a thing he says? So how is he ever going to deceive you? If Graz'zt says, "Hey, don't go that way, there's a huge dragon down there!" My immediate response is to wonder why he doesn't want me to go down there. I KNOW he's not telling me just because he's concerned about my safety, so I immediately start looking for some other motive. He hasn't deceived me, and he certainly hasn't prevented me from going down there. The only way Graz'zt is ever going to be able to prevent anyone from doing anything is by lining them up with his fist and saying, "Do that and it's one-way to the moon, buddy!" Anyone who knows what he is, anyway.Even if I look down the passage and see that, yep, there's a dragon there alright, I'm still going to try to figure out what it is he's trying to get me to do. I'm not going to just blindly wander down the other passage, thinking, "That Graz'zt, what a good guy."A demon can not deceive other demons because demons don't trust each other. They have to control one another through pure physical force, and that means that nowadays there ought to be only one.</blockquote>

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