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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 412911" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi all! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I went away for half an hour; returned to see half a dozen threads wanting a peice of me; spent 40 minutes replying to this post by coyote6 and just before I submitted it my computer crashed.If I didn't laugh I would cry! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />...anyway, time to get back on the saddle.Consider this an abbreviated version.  Its about all kinds of power. But that power must be backed at a fundamental level by commensurate personal power.The Lord; Prince and Monarch suffixes are courtesy of Gary Gygax.I'm guessing muckitymuck is a homebrewed title. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  Yes. I would say the top tier in such a hierarchy are all roughly comparative. It seems plausible that most demon habitable layers of the Abyss are under the thrall of the Demon Monarchs - even if it is just through intermediaries.As in, the Demon Lord who pays lip service to Graz'zt only when hes around. Its plausible that at some point in the past the Abyss was unified under one leader - however such sovereignty will be relatively short, given it is the nature of demons to conspire against one another.If Graz'zt were to gain an upper hand against his struggle with Orcus it would be likely Zuggtmoy (or another Monarch)  would ally with Orcus to prevent Graz'zts power waxing (so as to destabilise the relative balance). Of course once Graz'zt had been beaten back; Orcus and Zuggtmoy would likely fall on each other fighting over the spoils. Demogorgon might ally with Zuggtmoy against Orcus. Orcus allies with Baphomet etc. etc.Exactly. On any given day (1st Ed.) Graz'zt; Demogorgon or Orcus would be capable of defeating either of the others.However, the chances are they wouldn't provoke a direct confrontation unless they believed they held an advantage of some sorts (which is the whole crux of the Graz'zt should be comparable to Orcus and Demogorgon argument). I meant toughest as in most powerful. Exactly. I don't see how that analogy is applicable herein though. I could see that happening should the demons become active outside the Abyss.Other Demons of power would seem the obvious choice.</blockquote>

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