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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 412946" data-attributes="member: 812"><p>My apologies. I will attempt to do so.</p><p></p><p>Right. But of course he has no way of knowing who else is intimidating or rewarding her, so he has no way of judging what she thinks is in her own self-interest, so he has no way of feeling like he can trust her.</p><p></p><p>In contrast to human society where we have such things as love and honour and loyalty to help us feel like we can trust each other.</p><p></p><p>Well, then Graz'zt is a fool, because, being a demon, it's NOT likely she will do what he says. My point is that there's no way for him to be justified in feeling that she will likely do what he says, so if he's got a brain, he will NEVER trust her at all. In which case she's pretty much useless to him. Except, as I said, as decor.</p><p></p><p>Human beings can feel that they are justified in thinking that others will do what they say because human beings are capable of love and loyalty and honour. Demons are not and so none of those reasons can apply. Graz'zt knows that as soon as the succubus gets a better offer she will turn on him -- and in fact, being the incarnation of Chaotic Evil, she'd think it FUN to turn on him. She'd actually go out LOOKING for offers. So why would he ever trust anything she ever says, unless he's watching her every second? And I don't care what is CR is, he can't watch everyone all the time, so he's unable to trust anyone who isn't within reach of his ability to destroy.</p><p></p><p>So even mutual self-interest is no means for demons to trust one another, because they can never judge their own ability to determine each other's self-interest, except for the case in which their personal power allows them to control the fate of another.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 412946, member: 812"] My apologies. I will attempt to do so. Right. But of course he has no way of knowing who else is intimidating or rewarding her, so he has no way of judging what she thinks is in her own self-interest, so he has no way of feeling like he can trust her. In contrast to human society where we have such things as love and honour and loyalty to help us feel like we can trust each other. Well, then Graz'zt is a fool, because, being a demon, it's NOT likely she will do what he says. My point is that there's no way for him to be justified in feeling that she will likely do what he says, so if he's got a brain, he will NEVER trust her at all. In which case she's pretty much useless to him. Except, as I said, as decor. Human beings can feel that they are justified in thinking that others will do what they say because human beings are capable of love and loyalty and honour. Demons are not and so none of those reasons can apply. Graz'zt knows that as soon as the succubus gets a better offer she will turn on him -- and in fact, being the incarnation of Chaotic Evil, she'd think it FUN to turn on him. She'd actually go out LOOKING for offers. So why would he ever trust anything she ever says, unless he's watching her every second? And I don't care what is CR is, he can't watch everyone all the time, so he's unable to trust anyone who isn't within reach of his ability to destroy. So even mutual self-interest is no means for demons to trust one another, because they can never judge their own ability to determine each other's self-interest, except for the case in which their personal power allows them to control the fate of another. [/QUOTE]
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