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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 1893393" data-attributes="member: 3929">So they should be stopped not for what they are doing, but what they are going to do?If you're going to condemn the BDS, then do so because you think what they're doing is wrong, and not because "fanaticisim will eventually lead them to evil because they're human". Otherwise, you're talking about pre-emptory justice; arresting and punishing for something that you're pretty sure they are going to do, but you're there to stop them. See "Minority Report" for that kind of stuff.I actually happen to believe that killing/raping/thieving (and the Saints are talking about the big timers here, not just Joe-stole-$5-from-roomate's-wallet) are evils. You're not going to convince me otherwise. Am I a fanatic?Please, run with this one. I'd like to see where you're going with it.If redemption is something you can earn, then is it not also something that can be forfeited? They would argue that living the mafia life, with all that requires, forfeits your chance at redemption.Remember that the Saints give petty criminal evil an opportunity to repent. But they have a line that, once crossed, damns you.Out of curiousity Dakkareth, do you subscribe to the theory of moral relativism, or are you an absolutist?</blockquote>