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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8693183" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>well in the two examples the PCs being 'the boys' or 'invincable' they WERE able to reach those levels even if it took time.</p><p></p><p>1st, any character can beat any character it is up to the writer...</p><p>the big VS arguments often bore me because I could imagine a cross over where Mole Man and Kite Man team up and in the 1st act take down the combined forces of the JLA and Avengers. Would it be hard to write...yes, is it impossible no.</p><p>So can Robin beat superman? if the story calls for it yes.</p><p></p><p>but again even in a super hero game there is no reason you couldn't play a street level 'luke cage' or 'spiderman' like character and grow and level up to a 'beat superman' level. in RPGs (and even in comics power creep is a thing) you have levels and can grow into them.</p><p></p><p>I don't see this any more or less then people wanting to play merlin, drizzt, or a generic master swordsman... I often have to remind 1 player in particular that "You can't write the entire campaign into your 3rd level back story"</p><p></p><p>I laugh cause when useing little to no down time I have had PCs I have played go from 2nd or 3rd level (we rarely start at 1st) to 16th+ level in a month or two of game time. </p><p></p><p>infact playing through curse of strahd we left the FR at level 1, played over a year, but in game it was 6 1/2 weeks... killed strahd, did a ritual to cleanse Vympre... and got back to the realms level 15. To the bartender at the bar we started at we went on a month and a half camping trip as basic peons and came back super powers...</p><p></p><p>even that... who is to say hulk isn't a 3rd level frenzy bezerker barbarian with a rolled 18 str... don't make him angry you wont like him when he's angry?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8693183, member: 67338"] well in the two examples the PCs being 'the boys' or 'invincable' they WERE able to reach those levels even if it took time. 1st, any character can beat any character it is up to the writer... the big VS arguments often bore me because I could imagine a cross over where Mole Man and Kite Man team up and in the 1st act take down the combined forces of the JLA and Avengers. Would it be hard to write...yes, is it impossible no. So can Robin beat superman? if the story calls for it yes. but again even in a super hero game there is no reason you couldn't play a street level 'luke cage' or 'spiderman' like character and grow and level up to a 'beat superman' level. in RPGs (and even in comics power creep is a thing) you have levels and can grow into them. I don't see this any more or less then people wanting to play merlin, drizzt, or a generic master swordsman... I often have to remind 1 player in particular that "You can't write the entire campaign into your 3rd level back story" I laugh cause when useing little to no down time I have had PCs I have played go from 2nd or 3rd level (we rarely start at 1st) to 16th+ level in a month or two of game time. infact playing through curse of strahd we left the FR at level 1, played over a year, but in game it was 6 1/2 weeks... killed strahd, did a ritual to cleanse Vympre... and got back to the realms level 15. To the bartender at the bar we started at we went on a month and a half camping trip as basic peons and came back super powers... even that... who is to say hulk isn't a 3rd level frenzy bezerker barbarian with a rolled 18 str... don't make him angry you wont like him when he's angry? [/QUOTE]
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