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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 4908577" data-attributes="member: 82106">I just look at it as wanting to have a variety of useful tactics people can employ. There are plenty of ways to describe the bubble situation that are reasonable and provide perfectly good fluff. Eliminating it seems to me to be just a reaction of players to an unfavorable situations "wah, that's unfair". And I don't really buy the argument that allowing lunge doesn't do away with the disadvantage. For some characters it will not totally mitigate it, but for most decent melee character builds they won't be seriously (if at all) impeded by a requirement to make an MBA. If an MBA was all that lousy an option then charging would be a crap tactic and it obviously isn't. Its a perfectly good tactic even if you aren't well optimized for it. In fact for characters who's melee attacks are using secondary stats an MBA with Melee Training is better than using a power. Granted you're denying your opponent a +1 to hit, which not nothing, but its only half a standard situational bonus. Given that 90% of the time the "bubbled" character already has some sort of option it just seems like nothing but a tactics flattening exercise to get rid of it. Honestly in 6 plus levels of play with our latest group I haven't even seen this come up. Defenders are most always better off sticking to the enemy and while there have been situations where it could have been attempted the enemy always had some decent option. PCs really don't get knocked prone all that often either, and again, they seem to always have options in a real melee.</blockquote>

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