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<blockquote data-quote="Minicol" data-source="post: 3816877" data-attributes="member: 17308">I knew my answer was bound to get an answer.Yes, I know it does not matter, and I know the game will be success, at least at launch. And no I do not presume that WOTC will change anything to their plans because of me, nor do I really want them to. After all, I found that a lot of their recent products sucked.To be honest, I would have bought the new edition if only for collecting, but since I have an issue with the behaviour of some 4e fans, I won't. &quot;Our way or no way&quot; is hardly the means to make friends and influence people. But I suspect this attitude goes farther than just on the boards and it extends to the gaming table as well.I keep hearing that 4e will have nicer rules for instance, which'll be easier to learn. I am willing to believe this. But if I have to stand again two hours of rules discussion in the middle a swordstrike as two rule lawyers argue to no end over the book as they want to see THEIR vision of 4e prevail in the game, I am not interested.I keep remembering that at a time DRAGON was publishing a lot of stuff like PRCs, and I remember some gamers angrily rebuking the players wanting to use them, and insulting the DM on the way when he agreed to. They then adopted the same classes without a thought as soon as they were republished in hardback and refused to acknowledge their previous behaviour. Judging from what I read daily, I have the feeling that 4e is the next excuse to generate more of the same, and I will not support this &quot;I am the only one in charge&quot; power trip by adhering to this new edition.I don't stand around being bossed in real life, even in work, so why should I in my gaming life ? Why should I spend any amount of my precious limited leisure time with that kind of people ?Anyways, end of the rant, and thank you for your attention.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minicol, post: 3816877, member: 17308"] I knew my answer was bound to get an answer. Yes, I know it does not matter, and I know the game will be success, at least at launch. And no I do not presume that WOTC will change anything to their plans because of me, nor do I really want them to. After all, I found that a lot of their recent products sucked. To be honest, I would have bought the new edition if only for collecting, but since I have an issue with the behaviour of some 4e fans, I won't. "Our way or no way" is hardly the means to make friends and influence people. But I suspect this attitude goes farther than just on the boards and it extends to the gaming table as well. I keep hearing that 4e will have nicer rules for instance, which'll be easier to learn. I am willing to believe this. But if I have to stand again two hours of rules discussion in the middle a swordstrike as two rule lawyers argue to no end over the book as they want to see THEIR vision of 4e prevail in the game, I am not interested. I keep remembering that at a time DRAGON was publishing a lot of stuff like PRCs, and I remember some gamers angrily rebuking the players wanting to use them, and insulting the DM on the way when he agreed to. They then adopted the same classes without a thought as soon as they were republished in hardback and refused to acknowledge their previous behaviour. Judging from what I read daily, I have the feeling that 4e is the next excuse to generate more of the same, and I will not support this "I am the only one in charge" power trip by adhering to this new edition. I don't stand around being bossed in real life, even in work, so why should I in my gaming life ? Why should I spend any amount of my precious limited leisure time with that kind of people ? Anyways, end of the rant, and thank you for your attention. [/QUOTE]

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