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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 4180092" data-attributes="member: 386">Because you think they are cool.&nbsp; Or you want a story about women who manipulate men with sex, or men who are governed by their passions, or something along those lines.Sow chaos?&nbsp; I don't know what that means, it's weak (that's why I think the phane is stupid).&nbsp; But you could use the phane as a representation of the troubles that are caused when people do &lt;insert whatever you think is wrong with people here&gt;, and the chaos that is caused by it.In my example, what the phane wants isn't really important.&nbsp; He's a MacGuffin; he's there to set the plot in motion.&nbsp; The real question is what the human he first dealt with wants.&nbsp; I would do something like having the phane help the human fight against an orc uprising.1. The phane &quot;can manipulate time.&quot;&nbsp; That's good enough for me.2. Seriously?&nbsp; If an entry doesn't say &quot;I also like to ruin kingdoms for sport&quot;, the creature doesn't do that?&nbsp; Anyways, &quot;sow chaos among mortals&quot; suggests a political agenda to me.3. Nothing in the phane's entry tells you where to use combat, either, but you still know how to do it.&nbsp; That will be covered in the skill challenges section of the DMG.&nbsp; I'm not sure what you would want it to say.I don't call what I did in the post you replied to &quot;hard grunt work&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 4180092, member: 386"] Because you think they are cool. Or you want a story about women who manipulate men with sex, or men who are governed by their passions, or something along those lines. Sow chaos? I don't know what that means, it's weak (that's why I think the phane is stupid). But you could use the phane as a representation of the troubles that are caused when people do <insert whatever you think is wrong with people here>, and the chaos that is caused by it. In my example, what the phane wants isn't really important. He's a MacGuffin; he's there to set the plot in motion. The real question is what the human he first dealt with wants. I would do something like having the phane help the human fight against an orc uprising. 1. The phane "can manipulate time." That's good enough for me. 2. Seriously? If an entry doesn't say "I also like to ruin kingdoms for sport", the creature doesn't do that? Anyways, "sow chaos among mortals" suggests a political agenda to me. 3. Nothing in the phane's entry tells you where to use combat, either, but you still know how to do it. That will be covered in the skill challenges section of the DMG. I'm not sure what you would want it to say. I don't call what I did in the post you replied to "hard grunt work". [/QUOTE]

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