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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6411678" data-attributes="member: 22779">I'm assuming you mean unlit here.  But, not quite.  You cannot sneak attack ever if you have disadvantage.  You'd need to have an ally within 5 feet of the target and a way to gain advantage as well.  Sorry, been going over the whole sneak attack while blind/invisible thing recently.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Thing is, I can see his point here.  He's done this for a significant amount of time in the campaign and that's his schtick.  And, it's a pretty good schtick.  A party should be scouting like this an not all bunched up.  The scout should not be attacking anything and should never be starting a fight.  He goes up, sees the enemy, and either waits for the party or goes back and reports.  If the combat has already started and the rest of the group is catching up, that's a bad scout and probably a very short lived one as well.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />And, the thing to remember here is, he was doing it already.  This isn't a new character.  This is an established character who had been capable of doing the stealth thing for a number of levels and presumably a number of sessions as well, all without needing dark vision.  Comments about, "Oh, well, you suck as a ninja" kind of miss the point.  He already was being ninja.  However, the DM has thrust the party into a new situation (good) for an extended period of time (no problem) without providing any means for the player to mitigate the difficulties that the DM has thrust them into (bad).  It's not that providing challenge is a bad thing, but, what's the point of providing a challenge without having any means for resolving that challenge?  It's like stripping all the spells from the wizard, stealing his spell book and then telling him that for the next eight sessions, he cannot find another spell book.  Would anyone really find that fun?  Would you accept this graciously and just soldier on?  One or two or maybe three at the outside sessions?  Sure, ok, no problem.  Eight or more?  Yeah, no thank you.</blockquote>

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