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<blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 7987779" data-attributes="member: 3457"><p>Blah blah blah. Read the OP. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤪" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f92a.png" title="Zany face :zany_face:" data-shortname=":zany_face:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> and again I will ask... why do people keep assuming an FR book means covering everything like Kara Tur and Al Qadim or going into insane detail? None of the FRCS releases in the past, not even the boxed sets of yore or the fabled 3e and mangled 4e dealt with those aspects of the world and in 2e they were essentially their own settings with minor crossovers. Maztica hasn’t even had a product focused on it since the original material back in the early 90s! Al Qadim hasn’t been covered since the original limited series material back in the mid 90s. Kara Tur since the earliest 2e days when they did the Kara Tur set. So no, it’s an invalid argument and I think most who make these arguments know that is an invalid argument. </p><p></p><p>Greyhawk books don’t cover the rest of the planet outside of the Flanaess. Eberron doesn’t go into much detail on the other continents outside of Khorvaire. </p><p></p><p>The 3e book was a more than adequate overview of the setting in 320 pages. The earlier boxed sets in much less. The 1e and 2e boxed sets spent less than 200 pages describing the setting and that’s not accounting for rules explanations and such included in the DM books of those sets. The 2e set includes a 90 page book covering Shadowdale alone for a total of 350ish pages which is about the equivalent of a post 3e campaign setting book. </p><p></p><p>Not to insult, my first line was being a bit silly but it is disingenuous to continue these arguments when it’s blatantly obvious when people say they want an FRCS book that they mean something along the lines of the core boxed sets or the 3e book and not some comprehensive encyclopedic 800+ page book. To continue to use it as an argument against such a book really is a bit groan inducing. The SCAG is as much a treatment of the Realms as Waterdeep & The North from back in 1989 was a full treatment of the Realms or a campaign setting. It’s not. It’s a decent region guide, a gazetteer, with material that should be in a full FR treatment to make the Realms kinda, sorta useable in 5e. As a region guide it scratches just enough surface to run the campaigns WOTC publishes and do some very shallow FR campaigns in a very small region. </p><p></p><p>I get it, for Realms haters there must be a bit of delight in the lack of Realms branded products in comparison to 2 & 3e or even 4e. I was one of them in 2e. Haaated the Realms. It killed Greyhawk!! But to continue these arguments against the idea of one is a poor argument because it’s not what people are asking for. The small gazetteers in the adventures are not what people are asking for. Buying an adventure at $50 a pop for 32-50 pages or so is fiscally irresponsible in a now devastated global economy. A full blown campaign setting sure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="teitan, post: 7987779, member: 3457"] Blah blah blah. Read the OP. 🤪 and again I will ask... why do people keep assuming an FR book means covering everything like Kara Tur and Al Qadim or going into insane detail? None of the FRCS releases in the past, not even the boxed sets of yore or the fabled 3e and mangled 4e dealt with those aspects of the world and in 2e they were essentially their own settings with minor crossovers. Maztica hasn’t even had a product focused on it since the original material back in the early 90s! Al Qadim hasn’t been covered since the original limited series material back in the mid 90s. Kara Tur since the earliest 2e days when they did the Kara Tur set. So no, it’s an invalid argument and I think most who make these arguments know that is an invalid argument. Greyhawk books don’t cover the rest of the planet outside of the Flanaess. Eberron doesn’t go into much detail on the other continents outside of Khorvaire. The 3e book was a more than adequate overview of the setting in 320 pages. The earlier boxed sets in much less. The 1e and 2e boxed sets spent less than 200 pages describing the setting and that’s not accounting for rules explanations and such included in the DM books of those sets. The 2e set includes a 90 page book covering Shadowdale alone for a total of 350ish pages which is about the equivalent of a post 3e campaign setting book. Not to insult, my first line was being a bit silly but it is disingenuous to continue these arguments when it’s blatantly obvious when people say they want an FRCS book that they mean something along the lines of the core boxed sets or the 3e book and not some comprehensive encyclopedic 800+ page book. To continue to use it as an argument against such a book really is a bit groan inducing. The SCAG is as much a treatment of the Realms as Waterdeep & The North from back in 1989 was a full treatment of the Realms or a campaign setting. It’s not. It’s a decent region guide, a gazetteer, with material that should be in a full FR treatment to make the Realms kinda, sorta useable in 5e. As a region guide it scratches just enough surface to run the campaigns WOTC publishes and do some very shallow FR campaigns in a very small region. I get it, for Realms haters there must be a bit of delight in the lack of Realms branded products in comparison to 2 & 3e or even 4e. I was one of them in 2e. Haaated the Realms. It killed Greyhawk!! But to continue these arguments against the idea of one is a poor argument because it’s not what people are asking for. The small gazetteers in the adventures are not what people are asking for. Buying an adventure at $50 a pop for 32-50 pages or so is fiscally irresponsible in a now devastated global economy. A full blown campaign setting sure. [/QUOTE]
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