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<blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 7990213" data-attributes="member: 7015558"><p>Clearly we are going in circles here... Tyranny of Dragons was an obvious product to re-release, because the Rise is a direct sequel to Hoard. Just because it exists, a product that may have taken them maybe a month to finish (not including printing), is very little evidence of anything. You're asking for a very different type of re-release.</p><p></p><p>Also don't really know how the book can stay called the SCAG if it includes a bunch of non-SC material, but whatever.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, you're phrasing it like I'm shifting my argument, when really these are just segments of my same point.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You can put the entire Realms in one book, it's just going to look very similar to the FRCS with minimal content for each region and a few minor changes for 5E.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The word counts are different, but not that much different, and the font isn't changing back to that size anyway because 5E layout is consistent.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">They adventure books can be used that way, in fact much better than the handful of pages for the same region in the FRCS.</li> </ul><p></p><p>Which all tie back to my larger point, which is you clearly want a 5E FRCS. And I don't really understand why, as the setting material from the 3E FRCS is entirely useable from 5E. Yes 100 years have passed, so maybe some of the leadership has changed hands, but again there's only going to be enough room to hold minor changes from the 3E book.</p><p></p><p>Consider Chult. In a 5E FRCS, it would have to most of the material the 3E book has for that region, and add some lines explaining the Port Nyanzaru revolted and kicked out Amn. Ok, that's slightly different. Mostly the same, but slightly different yes. Is it better than the 3E version? I guess slightly, though paying an extra $50 for this marginal difference seems excessive (and we know you care about this since you find the adventures so expensive).</p><p></p><p>Compare that to Tomb of Annihilation. You get an entire first chapter devoted to Port Nyanzaru, complete with a map, key NPCs, random encounters, maps for villas, etc. In addition, you have a description that varies from one paragraph to a short adventure for literally every point marked on the Chultan Peninsula map. If you want to run an adventure in Chult, even one independent of the Death Curse plot, ToA is OBVIOUSLY the superior product to have.</p><p></p><p>I also don't understand the "5 years ago" thing... what's different 5 years ago from today? That we didn't have the 5 FR adventure books that we do now?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Urriak Uruk, post: 7990213, member: 7015558"] Clearly we are going in circles here... Tyranny of Dragons was an obvious product to re-release, because the Rise is a direct sequel to Hoard. Just because it exists, a product that may have taken them maybe a month to finish (not including printing), is very little evidence of anything. You're asking for a very different type of re-release. Also don't really know how the book can stay called the SCAG if it includes a bunch of non-SC material, but whatever. I mean, you're phrasing it like I'm shifting my argument, when really these are just segments of my same point. [LIST] [*]You can put the entire Realms in one book, it's just going to look very similar to the FRCS with minimal content for each region and a few minor changes for 5E. [*]The word counts are different, but not that much different, and the font isn't changing back to that size anyway because 5E layout is consistent. [*]They adventure books can be used that way, in fact much better than the handful of pages for the same region in the FRCS. [/LIST] Which all tie back to my larger point, which is you clearly want a 5E FRCS. And I don't really understand why, as the setting material from the 3E FRCS is entirely useable from 5E. Yes 100 years have passed, so maybe some of the leadership has changed hands, but again there's only going to be enough room to hold minor changes from the 3E book. Consider Chult. In a 5E FRCS, it would have to most of the material the 3E book has for that region, and add some lines explaining the Port Nyanzaru revolted and kicked out Amn. Ok, that's slightly different. Mostly the same, but slightly different yes. Is it better than the 3E version? I guess slightly, though paying an extra $50 for this marginal difference seems excessive (and we know you care about this since you find the adventures so expensive). Compare that to Tomb of Annihilation. You get an entire first chapter devoted to Port Nyanzaru, complete with a map, key NPCs, random encounters, maps for villas, etc. In addition, you have a description that varies from one paragraph to a short adventure for literally every point marked on the Chultan Peninsula map. If you want to run an adventure in Chult, even one independent of the Death Curse plot, ToA is OBVIOUSLY the superior product to have. I also don't understand the "5 years ago" thing... what's different 5 years ago from today? That we didn't have the 5 FR adventure books that we do now? [/QUOTE]
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