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<blockquote data-quote="ad_hoc" data-source="post: 7883052" data-attributes="member: 6748898"><p>But what did Strahd do? Fisticuffs?</p><p></p><p>Strahd is a completely unfair enemy. The party has very little they can actually do about him unless they find the Tarroka reading room. He can come and go at will and the PC's have his entire castle to worry about as he is harassing them.</p><p></p><p>Now, if instead, Strahd walks up to them and tries to punch them then yes, he's going to lose.</p><p></p><p>The book advises the DM how to use him and tells the DM to play unfair. This is Strahd's domain. He knows the PC's strengths and weaknesses. He knows where they are. He is the land. He is the ultimate terror.</p><p></p><p>That doesn't mean that CR is broken.</p><p></p><p>This sort of thing comes up a lot in these conversations.</p><p></p><p>How the enemy creatures are played is very important. CR is there as a warning sign of how potent these creatures can be.</p><p></p><p>In a similar conversation a person said the CR system is broken because their 1st or 2nd level PCs wiped out the entire Drow compound at the beginning of Out of the Abyss.</p><p></p><p>If the DM wants the players to win, they will win, regardless of the CR. That doesn't make CR broken.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ad_hoc, post: 7883052, member: 6748898"] But what did Strahd do? Fisticuffs? Strahd is a completely unfair enemy. The party has very little they can actually do about him unless they find the Tarroka reading room. He can come and go at will and the PC's have his entire castle to worry about as he is harassing them. Now, if instead, Strahd walks up to them and tries to punch them then yes, he's going to lose. The book advises the DM how to use him and tells the DM to play unfair. This is Strahd's domain. He knows the PC's strengths and weaknesses. He knows where they are. He is the land. He is the ultimate terror. That doesn't mean that CR is broken. This sort of thing comes up a lot in these conversations. How the enemy creatures are played is very important. CR is there as a warning sign of how potent these creatures can be. In a similar conversation a person said the CR system is broken because their 1st or 2nd level PCs wiped out the entire Drow compound at the beginning of Out of the Abyss. If the DM wants the players to win, they will win, regardless of the CR. That doesn't make CR broken. [/QUOTE]
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