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Message: <blockquote data-quote="enpeze66" data-source="post: 5551226" data-attributes="member: 6672053">Iron wolf,so they released a red cheating box where you have a teaser only to lure you in order to buy the full 1000p+ product later? Do you really think the casual gamer is that stupid not to realize that this is only a teaser and not the real product? In the moment he looks at the myriards of nerdy rulebooks and unnecessary option books, (aka D&D 4) he walks immediately away in disgustment.Paizo is not better in this respect with their cheating box of only 5 levels but full rule complexity. Do you really think that such a box will bring even one new casual? I definately doubt this. No, the solution is not to produce a teaser to lure the innocents in the "glorious PF game". The number crunching supernerds who love this type of overcomplex game often forget that the normal people are not like them but just want simple and easy entertainment. In order to reach the masses non-supernerds, fantasy fans, gamers, casuals, part time roleplayers, out there,  the real solution is to produce a full roleplaying game but with very simple rules and only a few pages to read AND good a marketing strategy (of the kind which only a big publisher is able to afford)</blockquote>