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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7602582" data-attributes="member: 12731">What's easy is to dismiss how far an ability gets you.Since D&amp;D is a combat game first and second (and third) just having a great Charisma score gets you a very long way in out-of-combat challenges.Also: being personally charismatic can easily have a much larger impact on being personally capable in combat. That is, while the difference between a minmaxed and an average character is large when viewed as a group game; in terms of story power the difference is negligible. Being able to rally thousands is rather better than being able to kill monsters 6 seconds faster, after all.These two things mean that while a topic like &quot;which class brings the most mechanical impact for using Charisma in combat&quot; where the Fighter doesn't come close to the top, for the purposes of enabling &quot;the charismatic Hero&quot; the fighter is entirely adequate.Give him Folk Hero or Noble background, have him donate a few coppers for bread to the poor, and you're all set.The only reason Charisma isn't totally overpowered compared to the other abilities is because the group is focused on the player characters, more or less neutering its main ability: to get others to fight and sacrifice themselves for you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7602582, member: 12731"] What's easy is to dismiss how far an ability gets you. Since D&D is a combat game first and second (and third) just having a great Charisma score gets you a very long way in out-of-combat challenges. Also: being personally charismatic can easily have a much larger impact on being personally capable in combat. That is, while the difference between a minmaxed and an average character is large when viewed as a group game; in terms of story power the difference is negligible. Being able to rally thousands is rather better than being able to kill monsters 6 seconds faster, after all. These two things mean that while a topic like "which class brings the most mechanical impact for using Charisma in combat" where the Fighter doesn't come close to the top, for the purposes of enabling "the charismatic Hero" the fighter is entirely adequate. Give him Folk Hero or Noble background, have him donate a few coppers for bread to the poor, and you're all set. The only reason Charisma isn't totally overpowered compared to the other abilities is because the group is focused on the player characters, more or less neutering its main ability: to get others to fight and sacrifice themselves for you. [/QUOTE]

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