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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 2032447" data-attributes="member: 17106">Well, he's also kind of dragged down by having to put a good stat in Cha, and his sneak attack is only half as much as a rogue...Of course I could see both lowering the BAB and sneak attack, but then the class would be utterly punchless (and feinting wouldn't help much). I was looking into Modern when I wrote this (Trick is based on the smart hero ability), but I didn't see anything that would make up for the loss of a BAB category and 5d6 SA.If I trashed the BAB I'd probably have to throw in another ability so he can hit someone. Int to attack rolls most likely.Flavorwise, the more mischevious types I very well see trying to fool someone or sneak up on them and then stab them where it hurts. I don't see the charlatan being as combat oriented as the rogue or cleric, but maybe as much as the bard. He's right on the borderline of 1/2-3/4 BAB to me.I don't want the good will, because to me, a charlatan is somewhat scatterbrained and unfocused.I will probably change some things later today to separate it a bit more from the rogue.</blockquote>