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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ismaul" data-source="post: 2032729" data-attributes="member: 22035">Well, here we go again.Since your class in pretty much a variant rogue, let's compare it with him.At first look, your class seems overpowered. Feinting is on of the best things for a rogue, as it gives free sneak attacks. Having less sneak attack doesn't really offset this bonus, as he is trading some occasional extra damage to always have this smaller amount of extra damage.Defensively, he is also much better. Dodge and distracting defense are worth more than evasion and uncanny dodge. Dodge etc. protects most of the time, while uncanny dodge etc. doesn't come up as often, if at all. After all, a rogue often has high spot/listen ranks, so he generally knows the enemy is there anyway.Free improved feint as first level makes me uneasy. It's a feat that has 2 prerequisites, and I see people taking a level of Charlatan instead of spending a feat on Combat expertise and favoring their Intelligence score. Instead, do like the Ranger, give it a 2nd level.Trick is powerful. It could mean the death of an opponent easily if used strategically. You also don't say what action it takes to do. Maybe make him pass a check or something so he can actually "cast" the effect, just like an attack roll or skill check.Also, why does he get skill focus? He's not more of a skill monkey than the rogue, so he shouldn't. Give him something else that fits the fluff, but that doesn't involve feinting. He's got plenty of that already, if not too much.and this one in the Role section:I don't see how he is worse than the rogue at scouting. I'd also say he is much better than the rogue at a straight up fight.Seriously, you should take a look at my core class, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p=1926483#post1926483" target="_blank">the Lorethief</a> (hint, hint ;p). It's got much in common with both your Sage and Charlatan, but offers something new too. Also, for the class you are presenting, someone could just do that with a rogue/PrC. Take combat expertise + Improved feint at low levels, maybe a level of sorcerer for tricks, and the invisible blade PrC (in Complete Warrior), a variant, or the arcane trickster and you're set.</blockquote>

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