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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8029964" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>The <em>character </em>cant possibly know that!</p><p></p><p>Not every Dwarf has lost a foot race with every Wood elf ever. While (in game) Olympics sprinting podiums are generally dominated by Wood Elves, the occasional Dwarf has won gold as well.</p><p></p><p>Put yourself in the shoes of the character on the ground, seeing a child run away through his eyes. Remove all meta-game knowledge as you do so, and include doubt into everything you see, think and do.</p><p></p><p>You dont know that child can run faster than you with certainty and you dont know that the hammer you toss at his legs will not hurt, or maybe even injure or kill him with any certainty. You cant know either of those things with certainty.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The <em>character </em>cant possibly know that either!</p><p></p><p>You're confusing the players knowledge of his movement speed on the character sheet, and his chat with the DM about 'doing non lethal damage', with what the character knows.</p><p></p><p>Drop the game talk. You're walking down the street and you see a carpenter (he's really good with a hammer) tossing it at the legs of a fleeing child, who just stole from a neighbouring shop.</p><p></p><p>The child is struck on the back of the legs, and goes down, screaming in pain (but un-injured other than bruises, scrapes and bumps).</p><p></p><p>Do you agree that:</p><p></p><p>1) There is a chance the carpenter could have resolved that scenario <em>without hurting the child?</em></p><p>2) There is a chance the child could have been seriously injured by the hammer throw?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8029964, member: 6788736"] The [I]character [/I]cant possibly know that! Not every Dwarf has lost a foot race with every Wood elf ever. While (in game) Olympics sprinting podiums are generally dominated by Wood Elves, the occasional Dwarf has won gold as well. Put yourself in the shoes of the character on the ground, seeing a child run away through his eyes. Remove all meta-game knowledge as you do so, and include doubt into everything you see, think and do. You dont know that child can run faster than you with certainty and you dont know that the hammer you toss at his legs will not hurt, or maybe even injure or kill him with any certainty. You cant know either of those things with certainty. The [I]character [/I]cant possibly know that either! You're confusing the players knowledge of his movement speed on the character sheet, and his chat with the DM about 'doing non lethal damage', with what the character knows. Drop the game talk. You're walking down the street and you see a carpenter (he's really good with a hammer) tossing it at the legs of a fleeing child, who just stole from a neighbouring shop. The child is struck on the back of the legs, and goes down, screaming in pain (but un-injured other than bruises, scrapes and bumps). Do you agree that: 1) There is a chance the carpenter could have resolved that scenario [I]without hurting the child?[/I] 2) There is a chance the child could have been seriously injured by the hammer throw? [/QUOTE]
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