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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 8326837" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>In 4e, there is a DC 34 Arcana check to bypass the defense against divination. In PF we failed to convert that; it'd probably be a DC 28 caster level check, like bypassing <em>nondetection</em>. If you fail, you get some innocuous result. </p><p></p><p>In this situation, Lisandra's got a neat ability and is really digging around, <em>and </em>she knows Lya is involved with the Ob, so I'd give her a clearer sense that she's getting fake information.</p><p></p><p>Each time Lisandra makes a Knowledge check, have her roll the caster level check. If she fails, let her retrieve some of the following memories. If she gets close, maybe mention a few details flickering, like the faces of people, and locations. Maybe she half-hears a second conversation whispered in the background.</p><p></p><p>1. Lya talking with her uncle the Sovereign about how he's concerned about a secret society infiltrating both Danor and Risur, and that he wants her to let him know if anyone suspicious approaches her. This seems to occur some time after adventure 1.</p><p></p><p>(In truth, her uncle recruits her to the Ob after Axis Island is secured, and tells her she'll be in charge of the excavations there.)</p><p></p><p>2. Lya at the sovereign's hall in Cherage, seeing her uncle distressed, talking with a man whose face Lya never glimpses, worried about an industrial accident.</p><p></p><p>(In truth, she and Han Jierre meet with Nicodemus using needlewire who updates them about the crisis in Flint after Macbannin was captured. Nicodemus says that he intends to go recruit the mayor before his trial.)</p><p></p><p>3. Lya counting gold coins. Eight coins specifically.</p><p></p><p>(In truth, she's reading a ciphered report from Caius about having retrieved the golden icons from all eight ziggurats.)</p><p></p><p>4. Lya talking with the figure the PCs previously met at the end of adventure 4 (since they don't yet know that Nicodemus is a ghost possessing various bodies). Lya and the leader, who the fake memory says is named Johan, discuss that Luke Jierre will do well as a glassblower's apprentice.</p><p></p><p>(In truth, Nicodemus is saying that they'll need to be more careful about installing the lanterns now that the RHC has a hint of what they're up to. It won't do to be totally obvious and put them in lighthouses.)</p><p></p><p>5. Lya and her uncle watching a toddler stumble around and fall. Lya wants to help, but Han tells her it's not their child to interfere with.</p><p></p><p>(In truth, Lya and Han are fleeing Flint as the colossus breaks free. She wants to reveal what they know to help protect innocents, but Han says that the long-term value of their plan will save far more lives than revealing their secrets now would.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 8326837, member: 63"] In 4e, there is a DC 34 Arcana check to bypass the defense against divination. In PF we failed to convert that; it'd probably be a DC 28 caster level check, like bypassing [I]nondetection[/I]. If you fail, you get some innocuous result. In this situation, Lisandra's got a neat ability and is really digging around, [I]and [/I]she knows Lya is involved with the Ob, so I'd give her a clearer sense that she's getting fake information. Each time Lisandra makes a Knowledge check, have her roll the caster level check. If she fails, let her retrieve some of the following memories. If she gets close, maybe mention a few details flickering, like the faces of people, and locations. Maybe she half-hears a second conversation whispered in the background. 1. Lya talking with her uncle the Sovereign about how he's concerned about a secret society infiltrating both Danor and Risur, and that he wants her to let him know if anyone suspicious approaches her. This seems to occur some time after adventure 1. (In truth, her uncle recruits her to the Ob after Axis Island is secured, and tells her she'll be in charge of the excavations there.) 2. Lya at the sovereign's hall in Cherage, seeing her uncle distressed, talking with a man whose face Lya never glimpses, worried about an industrial accident. (In truth, she and Han Jierre meet with Nicodemus using needlewire who updates them about the crisis in Flint after Macbannin was captured. Nicodemus says that he intends to go recruit the mayor before his trial.) 3. Lya counting gold coins. Eight coins specifically. (In truth, she's reading a ciphered report from Caius about having retrieved the golden icons from all eight ziggurats.) 4. Lya talking with the figure the PCs previously met at the end of adventure 4 (since they don't yet know that Nicodemus is a ghost possessing various bodies). Lya and the leader, who the fake memory says is named Johan, discuss that Luke Jierre will do well as a glassblower's apprentice. (In truth, Nicodemus is saying that they'll need to be more careful about installing the lanterns now that the RHC has a hint of what they're up to. It won't do to be totally obvious and put them in lighthouses.) 5. Lya and her uncle watching a toddler stumble around and fall. Lya wants to help, but Han tells her it's not their child to interfere with. (In truth, Lya and Han are fleeing Flint as the colossus breaks free. She wants to reveal what they know to help protect innocents, but Han says that the long-term value of their plan will save far more lives than revealing their secrets now would.) [/QUOTE]
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