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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 1632312" data-attributes="member: 463">The class gets full BAB; I would call it &quot;Citizen-Soldier&quot;, &quot;Gentleman&quot;, or somesuch.&nbsp; Full BAB = Fighting class! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I agree Medium armour proficiency is appropriate.&nbsp; With Good Fort &amp; Will saves (a good Will save over 20 levels is far better than my Warrrior Knight's eventual +2 Will save bonus), 4 skill points/level, and 1/1 BAB, there's not a huge amount of room for other powers.&nbsp; Still, I would probably let him take any Feat as his bonus feats, he seems quite a renaissance man.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It doesn't seem a weak class.&nbsp; I'd only use it for a princess if she had extensive weapons training, otherwise Aristocrat is plenty tough enough for a girl with basic self-defense instruction.&nbsp; It makes a decent urban knight or a merchant who's also a skilled warrior; Expert is ok for most merchants.&nbsp; A detective of the two-fisted beat-em-up kind is also appropriate for this class; a Sherlock Holmes detective should have more skill points, poorer BAB and probably poor Will save.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 1632312, member: 463"] The class gets full BAB; I would call it "Citizen-Soldier", "Gentleman", or somesuch. Full BAB = Fighting class! :) I agree Medium armour proficiency is appropriate. With Good Fort & Will saves (a good Will save over 20 levels is far better than my Warrrior Knight's eventual +2 Will save bonus), 4 skill points/level, and 1/1 BAB, there's not a huge amount of room for other powers. Still, I would probably let him take any Feat as his bonus feats, he seems quite a renaissance man. :) It doesn't seem a weak class. I'd only use it for a princess if she had extensive weapons training, otherwise Aristocrat is plenty tough enough for a girl with basic self-defense instruction. It makes a decent urban knight or a merchant who's also a skilled warrior; Expert is ok for most merchants. A detective of the two-fisted beat-em-up kind is also appropriate for this class; a Sherlock Holmes detective should have more skill points, poorer BAB and probably poor Will save. [/QUOTE]

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