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The Cleric should be retired
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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9174973" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Every edition has tried to do something about the 'healbot'</p><p>1e tried giving the Cleric bonus spells, and had some spell levels with no healing at all, notably 2nd level spells, so, as there was no clear official rule like upcasting, the cleric got to cast some spells besides healing, some of the time.</p><p>2e brought us not one, but two or three systems to customize clerics or Priests to different deities or even forces or philosophies</p><p>3e gave the cleric spontaneous healing, domain spells, self-buffing spells, access to better weapons, ...and WoCLW... and created CoDzilla.</p><p>4e moved the resource burden from the healer to the character needing healing (ie from spells to surges), expanded the healer role to 'leader,' which tho it did not include leading the party, did include attacking-and-healing in one go, buffing allies, granting allies actions, and arguably de-buffing/'setting up' enemies (which was also arguably secondary control), and included a Leader class in every Source, so, regardless of the broad sort of character you might want to play, you could fill the role. Even an all-martial party would not be disadvantaged for lack of da healz, for the only time in the games long history.</p><p></p><p>5e also made in-combat healing pretty ineffective outside of whack-a-mole, which ... limits the the range of ways you can run it.... and while HD are a universal healing resource, it's a smaller one than surges were, and slots can be entirely devoted to healing, tho, IMHO, the incentive to do that is very low, since they're so much more powerful used in other ways. </p><p>At least nominally religious characters (Cleric, Paladin, Druid -divine sorcerer, apparently) aren't the only healers there are also Bards.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs up (y)" data-smilie="22"data-shortname="(y)" /> </p><p>(TBH, I remember hearing "Mage" quite a lot back in the day ... and being, like, 'but, that's a the title of a 16th level magic-user?')</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 9174973, member: 996"] Every edition has tried to do something about the 'healbot' 1e tried giving the Cleric bonus spells, and had some spell levels with no healing at all, notably 2nd level spells, so, as there was no clear official rule like upcasting, the cleric got to cast some spells besides healing, some of the time. 2e brought us not one, but two or three systems to customize clerics or Priests to different deities or even forces or philosophies 3e gave the cleric spontaneous healing, domain spells, self-buffing spells, access to better weapons, ...and WoCLW... and created CoDzilla. 4e moved the resource burden from the healer to the character needing healing (ie from spells to surges), expanded the healer role to 'leader,' which tho it did not include leading the party, did include attacking-and-healing in one go, buffing allies, granting allies actions, and arguably de-buffing/'setting up' enemies (which was also arguably secondary control), and included a Leader class in every Source, so, regardless of the broad sort of character you might want to play, you could fill the role. Even an all-martial party would not be disadvantaged for lack of da healz, for the only time in the games long history. 5e also made in-combat healing pretty ineffective outside of whack-a-mole, which ... limits the the range of ways you can run it.... and while HD are a universal healing resource, it's a smaller one than surges were, and slots can be entirely devoted to healing, tho, IMHO, the incentive to do that is very low, since they're so much more powerful used in other ways. At least nominally religious characters (Cleric, Paladin, Druid -divine sorcerer, apparently) aren't the only healers there are also Bards. (y) (TBH, I remember hearing "Mage" quite a lot back in the day ... and being, like, 'but, that's a the title of a 16th level magic-user?') [/QUOTE]
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