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<blockquote data-quote="kunadam" data-source="post: 9203934" data-attributes="member: 57610">I think this topic is important! Not that anyone would like the cleric as a class to go (I certainly don't), but I would prefer a bit more focus.There is a dearth of clerics as [USER=6801228]@Chaosmancer[/USER] wrote in the literature. Even D&amp;D literature is not very keen on clerics. Goldmoon comes to my mind. There are tons of paladins. The holy warrior archetype is clearly there. But organized religious figures able to cast spells on a regular basis is just not in the fiction. I think mostly because people do not think it through what it means that there are clerics in a world. Some D&amp;D books like Spellfire series or the Cormyr books hint at it. Anyone can be healed and brought back from the dead. Basically there should not be wounds, illnesses and the like, nor failing corps, miscarriages, etc.&nbsp; One can say that wizards have their own agenda, and don't want to meddle with the life of peasants. But the very definition of religion&nbsp; is to meddle with the life of the average citizen.I also prefer the cleric to be part of a visible and organized religion. I played a cleric in a campaign where the DM did not wanted to touch the issue of religions at all. The class just felt bleak. Without the religion it is just an armoured wizard without fireball.For me the best cleric class was 2e specialty priest. The minor and major spheres were a fantastic idea that allowed different priests to be really different.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kunadam, post: 9203934, member: 57610"] I think this topic is important! Not that anyone would like the cleric as a class to go (I certainly don't), but I would prefer a bit more focus. There is a dearth of clerics as [USER=6801228]@Chaosmancer[/USER] wrote in the literature. Even D&D literature is not very keen on clerics. Goldmoon comes to my mind. There are tons of paladins. The holy warrior archetype is clearly there. But organized religious figures able to cast spells on a regular basis is just not in the fiction. I think mostly because people do not think it through what it means that there are clerics in a world. Some D&D books like Spellfire series or the Cormyr books hint at it. Anyone can be healed and brought back from the dead. Basically there should not be wounds, illnesses and the like, nor failing corps, miscarriages, etc. One can say that wizards have their own agenda, and don't want to meddle with the life of peasants. But the very definition of religion is to meddle with the life of the average citizen. I also prefer the cleric to be part of a visible and organized religion. I played a cleric in a campaign where the DM did not wanted to touch the issue of religions at all. The class just felt bleak. Without the religion it is just an armoured wizard without fireball. For me the best cleric class was 2e specialty priest. The minor and major spheres were a fantastic idea that allowed different priests to be really different. [/QUOTE]

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