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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4768990" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p>The first book is Wizard's First Rule, it has some bite and a bit of adult (dark sexuality) to it.</p><p>I recommend the books they are by Terry Goodkind.  There is high intellectual philosophic </p><p>element to them. The tv series is still fun... but the style is not entirely the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The character type you are talking about is definitely in that world..</p><p>They encounter a character who is most definitely a mixed prophetess, enchanter or temptress who changes her appearance to influence the target has temporary influence on people etc....but... that character also fears the confessor ;-).</p><p></p><p>Neither the enchantress nor the confessor feel defendery to me.. because they aren't damage soakers .. That would be the seeker who fights like a battlerager (pain suppression as a skill and must invoke his righteous anger to avoid bad after effects when using the sword of truth) </p><p></p><p>Her power is intertwined with the power of the seeker of truth (bearer of the sword of truth)</p><p></p><p>In the tv series they sort of imply she might be using a lesser element of her power to verify truth but I am not sure, we could probably sneak that in.  There also seemed to be intimation her power could somehow verify the truth of written words?</p><p></p><p>They make a big deal out of how exhausting the confessors confession power is ... and at-wills do not seem too appropriate (hence the vivid two dagger fighting in the tv show which features either taking down quite a few minion class soldiers or is very strikery) ..though she may be trading her actions (ie her exhaustion) for having her victim taking actions. </p><p></p><p>One time she is said to have told somebody she had "confessed" what they could do for her was die ... they promptly did (this is one evidence of her greater than normal talent). Out of combat  She thinks it destroys there personalities but it doesnt seem "entirely" true.  Those she confess also fall over themselves to tell her what they think she wants to hear... mostly its the truth (occasionally not), she can tell them to do things and sometimes they try and fail miserably by re-interpreting her commands in ways that fit their personalities.</p><p>She doesn't like using it on anyone she doesn't think really is slime (and doesn't really like that either, having horrible people professing there love to you sucks) ... she has to use it as a social duty.  They use it to verify criminals or prove that they are not criminals. The wizards did find something of an out... if I recall if somebody was transformed permanently into another creature (though perhaps a sentient version of that creature..) the power of the confession faded. </p><p></p><p>The confessor in the story lacked full teaching so it is possible at higher levels she had other powers or more versatile one... she was the last of her kind and so called by the highest rank the "Mother Confessor" ... but probably talented enough she would find the higher level abilities on her own.</p><p></p><p>The tv series doesn't have her as the last confessor ... primarily so they could show other confessors who make mistakes that the hero wouldn't.</p><p></p><p>Durn, I really tried not to notice the D&D joke but it was hard to miss. ;-).</p><p></p><p>orinhalifax I think you might be right about the Forgotten Realms having some world elements which feel like the confessors might fit in.</p><p></p><p>They have an episode in the series which features some moralities lessons about a mage making a bunch of quick fix magic items and a culture being addicted to them for all intents and purposes.</p><p></p><p>The writer also emphasizes the seeker over the sword ie if the seeker doesnt have what it takes the sword would destroy him and warp him as bad as the one ring warped gollum. A bunch of pc heros all dependent on there magical gear .. the baseline magic item assumptions of D&D don't work so well in my opinion... but that is an independent change I am inclined to make anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 4768990, member: 82504"] The first book is Wizard's First Rule, it has some bite and a bit of adult (dark sexuality) to it. I recommend the books they are by Terry Goodkind. There is high intellectual philosophic element to them. The tv series is still fun... but the style is not entirely the same. The character type you are talking about is definitely in that world.. They encounter a character who is most definitely a mixed prophetess, enchanter or temptress who changes her appearance to influence the target has temporary influence on people etc....but... that character also fears the confessor ;-). Neither the enchantress nor the confessor feel defendery to me.. because they aren't damage soakers .. That would be the seeker who fights like a battlerager (pain suppression as a skill and must invoke his righteous anger to avoid bad after effects when using the sword of truth) Her power is intertwined with the power of the seeker of truth (bearer of the sword of truth) In the tv series they sort of imply she might be using a lesser element of her power to verify truth but I am not sure, we could probably sneak that in. There also seemed to be intimation her power could somehow verify the truth of written words? They make a big deal out of how exhausting the confessors confession power is ... and at-wills do not seem too appropriate (hence the vivid two dagger fighting in the tv show which features either taking down quite a few minion class soldiers or is very strikery) ..though she may be trading her actions (ie her exhaustion) for having her victim taking actions. One time she is said to have told somebody she had "confessed" what they could do for her was die ... they promptly did (this is one evidence of her greater than normal talent). Out of combat She thinks it destroys there personalities but it doesnt seem "entirely" true. Those she confess also fall over themselves to tell her what they think she wants to hear... mostly its the truth (occasionally not), she can tell them to do things and sometimes they try and fail miserably by re-interpreting her commands in ways that fit their personalities. She doesn't like using it on anyone she doesn't think really is slime (and doesn't really like that either, having horrible people professing there love to you sucks) ... she has to use it as a social duty. They use it to verify criminals or prove that they are not criminals. The wizards did find something of an out... if I recall if somebody was transformed permanently into another creature (though perhaps a sentient version of that creature..) the power of the confession faded. The confessor in the story lacked full teaching so it is possible at higher levels she had other powers or more versatile one... she was the last of her kind and so called by the highest rank the "Mother Confessor" ... but probably talented enough she would find the higher level abilities on her own. The tv series doesn't have her as the last confessor ... primarily so they could show other confessors who make mistakes that the hero wouldn't. Durn, I really tried not to notice the D&D joke but it was hard to miss. ;-). orinhalifax I think you might be right about the Forgotten Realms having some world elements which feel like the confessors might fit in. They have an episode in the series which features some moralities lessons about a mage making a bunch of quick fix magic items and a culture being addicted to them for all intents and purposes. The writer also emphasizes the seeker over the sword ie if the seeker doesnt have what it takes the sword would destroy him and warp him as bad as the one ring warped gollum. A bunch of pc heros all dependent on there magical gear .. the baseline magic item assumptions of D&D don't work so well in my opinion... but that is an independent change I am inclined to make anyway. [/QUOTE]
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