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<blockquote data-quote="Halivar" data-source="post: 1177737" data-attributes="member: 9327"> I don't mean to offend; I really don't, but when I read this all I could think of was the Dead Alewives D&amp;D spoof where &quot;Graham&quot; the DM says &quot;For God's sakes, Mark, this is ADVANCED!&quot; For years before I was into D&amp;D, I made fun of &quot;D&amp;D nerds&quot; because of the mentality that if you didn't give all your time, money and energy into the game you were not fit to play with the real D&amp;D devotees.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;My first experience with D&amp;D was as a level 1 2nd Ed. Ftr/Mu in a high level group that had been playing together for years. I had no books and certianly no money to purchase them. So I borrowed. By your thinking, this would have been inappropriate. I am glad the group I joined disagreed with you.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Today, WotC has received a truck-load of cash from me (yeah, I drove it right up to their door) and they have benefitted from my first group &quot;breaking the rules.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Glittering generalization. I disagree from past experience.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Actually, this mentality came and went.&nbsp; With its passing, D&amp;D has become a game (not a volunteer job) that mainstream folks can enjoy liesurely without having to join a cabal or secret nerd society. WotC knows and understands this; that's why they released the SRD as a free download. The expectation is that you can sit down and enjoy the game without putting a dime into it.&nbsp; If you expect something different, lobby WotC to do away with the SRD and OGL.&nbsp;&nbsp;EDIT:&nbsp; BTW, I say all of this as a bona fide D&amp;D nerd.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Halivar, post: 1177737, member: 9327"] [color=LemonChiffon] I don't mean to offend; I really don't, but when I read this all I could think of was the Dead Alewives D&D spoof where "Graham" the DM says "For God's sakes, Mark, this is ADVANCED!" For years before I was into D&D, I made fun of "D&D nerds" because of the mentality that if you didn't give all your time, money and energy into the [i]game [/i]you were not fit to play with the [i]real [/i]D&D devotees. My first experience with D&D was as a level 1 2nd Ed. Ftr/Mu in a high level group that had been playing together for years. I had no books and certianly no money to purchase them. So I borrowed. By your thinking, this would have been inappropriate. I am glad the group I joined disagreed with you. Today, WotC has received a truck-load of cash from me (yeah, I drove it right up to their door) and they have benefitted from my first group "breaking the rules." [/color][color=LemonChiffon][/color][color=LemonChiffon] Glittering generalization. I disagree from past experience. [/color][color=LemonChiffon][/color][color=LemonChiffon][/color] Actually, this mentality came and went. With its passing, D&D has become a [i]game [/i](not a volunteer job) that mainstream folks can enjoy liesurely without having to join a cabal or secret nerd society. WotC knows and understands this; that's why they released the SRD as a free download. The expectation is that you can sit down and enjoy the [i]game[/i] without putting a dime into it. If you expect something different, lobby WotC to do away with the SRD and OGL. EDIT: BTW, I say all of this as a bona fide D&D nerd. [/QUOTE]

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