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<blockquote data-quote="Tratyn Runewind" data-source="post: 368789" data-attributes="member: 685"><p>Hello again!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, this wasn't the <em>original</em> "red box" Basic set (with Erol Otus cover art, and Morgan Ironwolf as its sample "iconic" character), but the later "red box" version with the same logo as the Companion and Masters sets.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Karameikos was Bargle's stomping grounds for most of his career. These materials are where you'll find most of the info on him. The <em>Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure</em> boxed set is a relic of the ill-advised attempt to turn Mystara into yet another 2e campaign world, and is a basically a rewrite of GAZ1, updated to reflect post-<em>Wrath of the Immortals</em> continuity, and packaged with an exceedingly lame CD-supported adventure that served as an excuse to vastly overprice the thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, can't seem to find anything about him in there. He's not in the Immortals rulebook section, and none of the adventure parts are set in Karameikos, nor is he mentioned in the campaign timeline.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you're thinking of Ludwig. He was supposedly an advisor to Prince Kol at one point after his flight from Karameikos. I don't believe Bargle was there at all (he's avoiding Ludwig these days <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />). This boxed set, like the one for Karameikos, is a 2e rewrite of the Glantri Gazetteer (GAZ3), with another CD adventure within. It's even worse than the Karameikos one, as Glantri had far more high-level characters who had to be cruelly truncated to fit within 2e's 20-level limit in its core rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, there are full stat-blocks for both Bargle and Ludwig given in the module, for the characters' dealings in Karameikos (Bargle is 15th level at the time). Note that the module was re-retconned in <em>Wrath of the Immortals</em> and put back into the current timeline, with the current characters.</p><p></p><p>Hope that helps, and welcome to the boards, anowack (always nice to see another Mystara fan around the place)! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tratyn Runewind, post: 368789, member: 685"] Hello again! Actually, this wasn't the [i]original[/i] "red box" Basic set (with Erol Otus cover art, and Morgan Ironwolf as its sample "iconic" character), but the later "red box" version with the same logo as the Companion and Masters sets. Karameikos was Bargle's stomping grounds for most of his career. These materials are where you'll find most of the info on him. The [i]Karameikos: Kingdom of Adventure[/i] boxed set is a relic of the ill-advised attempt to turn Mystara into yet another 2e campaign world, and is a basically a rewrite of GAZ1, updated to reflect post-[i]Wrath of the Immortals[/i] continuity, and packaged with an exceedingly lame CD-supported adventure that served as an excuse to vastly overprice the thing. No, can't seem to find anything about him in there. He's not in the Immortals rulebook section, and none of the adventure parts are set in Karameikos, nor is he mentioned in the campaign timeline. I think you're thinking of Ludwig. He was supposedly an advisor to Prince Kol at one point after his flight from Karameikos. I don't believe Bargle was there at all (he's avoiding Ludwig these days ;)). This boxed set, like the one for Karameikos, is a 2e rewrite of the Glantri Gazetteer (GAZ3), with another CD adventure within. It's even worse than the Karameikos one, as Glantri had far more high-level characters who had to be cruelly truncated to fit within 2e's 20-level limit in its core rules. Yes, there are full stat-blocks for both Bargle and Ludwig given in the module, for the characters' dealings in Karameikos (Bargle is 15th level at the time). Note that the module was re-retconned in [i]Wrath of the Immortals[/i] and put back into the current timeline, with the current characters. Hope that helps, and welcome to the boards, anowack (always nice to see another Mystara fan around the place)! :) [/QUOTE]
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