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The core issue of the martial/caster gap is just the fundamental design of d20 fantasy casters.
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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9168523" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>Or what I would actually do if I was playing a non-magical Warlord using the Bard chassis... is just strip all the flavor off that spell (were I to take it) and use it strictly for its useful mechanics only.</p><p></p><p>I grant all allies Advantage on attacks against a group of enemies within 20 feet of each other up to 60' away from me if they fail a DEX save.</p><p></p><p>There we go. Warlord ability. And I would refluff it with whatever sort of inspirational ra-ra flavor I'd want.</p><p></p><p>Now of course you will ask about the whole "glowing lights" thing. And frankly, I would just ignore that part of the spell, because it's merely a ribbon ability attached to the actual useful mechanic of granting allies Advantage against a bunch of enemies. So I couldn't care less whether or not those enemies were outlined in green or purple, that's not why I'm using the ability (spell)... so I'd just pretend like that part of the ability didn't exist. Not missing much.</p><p></p><p>And I'm sure you will ask about the use of the DEX save for a 'Warlord ability', rather than a WIS or CHA save. And that's one where I'd just handwave it and not even bother trying to invent some sort of reason to justify why it's a DEX save. I'm not going to try to game the game by asking the DM to change the type of save it is just to make it feel "correct"... rather, since it's a simplistic and fast game mechanic that will be over and done with in three seconds once the DM rolls the saves, we can all just ignore what type of save it actually was.</p><p></p><p>Long story short... the actual useful mechanic of granting allies Advantage on attacks against a small group of enemies can easily be a Warlord ability, so were I to use it, that's what I'd do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9168523, member: 7006"] Or what I would actually do if I was playing a non-magical Warlord using the Bard chassis... is just strip all the flavor off that spell (were I to take it) and use it strictly for its useful mechanics only. I grant all allies Advantage on attacks against a group of enemies within 20 feet of each other up to 60' away from me if they fail a DEX save. There we go. Warlord ability. And I would refluff it with whatever sort of inspirational ra-ra flavor I'd want. Now of course you will ask about the whole "glowing lights" thing. And frankly, I would just ignore that part of the spell, because it's merely a ribbon ability attached to the actual useful mechanic of granting allies Advantage against a bunch of enemies. So I couldn't care less whether or not those enemies were outlined in green or purple, that's not why I'm using the ability (spell)... so I'd just pretend like that part of the ability didn't exist. Not missing much. And I'm sure you will ask about the use of the DEX save for a 'Warlord ability', rather than a WIS or CHA save. And that's one where I'd just handwave it and not even bother trying to invent some sort of reason to justify why it's a DEX save. I'm not going to try to game the game by asking the DM to change the type of save it is just to make it feel "correct"... rather, since it's a simplistic and fast game mechanic that will be over and done with in three seconds once the DM rolls the saves, we can all just ignore what type of save it actually was. Long story short... the actual useful mechanic of granting allies Advantage on attacks against a small group of enemies can easily be a Warlord ability, so were I to use it, that's what I'd do. [/QUOTE]
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