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The core issue of the martial/caster gap is just the fundamental design of d20 fantasy casters.
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<blockquote data-quote="Indaarys" data-source="post: 9169169" data-attributes="member: 7040941"><p>I think something that goes unnoticed re: surveys is that we live in a world where trolling is easy and has been weaponized. </p><p></p><p>When you open up surveys to the general internet with zero vetting, you fundamentally have to assume that at least some portion of your data is straight up manufactured. </p><p></p><p>And those portions only get bigger the more well known and mainstream you are. </p><p></p><p>Sure, WOTC has spoken to the idea that they're consciously intaking all this data, but that doesn't mean they're not being trolled. </p><p></p><p>Trolling isn't obvious like that, and given how WOTC publically speaks about the game and what they percieve as their audience's perception of the game is often wildly out of synch with any other verifiable source, it speaks to there being a problem. </p><p></p><p>Particularly when one considers its happened before. No one wanted simple Martials during Next, and yet out of nowhere WOTC pipes up saying that there were totally people who explicitly demanded that Fighters in particular be nothing but attacks while casters did everything else.</p><p></p><p>And you can see it too, when you read through the Next Playtest packets. </p><p></p><p>The Fighter was decently designed (and fulfilled more or less everything anyones ever wanted) right up to Packet 9 out of 10, and suddenly the entire design gets thrown out with no explanation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Indaarys, post: 9169169, member: 7040941"] I think something that goes unnoticed re: surveys is that we live in a world where trolling is easy and has been weaponized. When you open up surveys to the general internet with zero vetting, you fundamentally have to assume that at least some portion of your data is straight up manufactured. And those portions only get bigger the more well known and mainstream you are. Sure, WOTC has spoken to the idea that they're consciously intaking all this data, but that doesn't mean they're not being trolled. Trolling isn't obvious like that, and given how WOTC publically speaks about the game and what they percieve as their audience's perception of the game is often wildly out of synch with any other verifiable source, it speaks to there being a problem. Particularly when one considers its happened before. No one wanted simple Martials during Next, and yet out of nowhere WOTC pipes up saying that there were totally people who explicitly demanded that Fighters in particular be nothing but attacks while casters did everything else. And you can see it too, when you read through the Next Playtest packets. The Fighter was decently designed (and fulfilled more or less everything anyones ever wanted) right up to Packet 9 out of 10, and suddenly the entire design gets thrown out with no explanation. [/QUOTE]
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