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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 5898046" data-attributes="member: 59057">quite ok.But I guess take 10 should be taken into account:0: everyone can do it all the time, under pressure or not. (Useless...)5: Everyone can do it when not under pressure (Assuming take ten and a penalty of -4 max...10: the average person can do it when not under pressure...20: the average person can only do it with a lot of time, or luck (take 20) or the average master can reliably do it when not under pressure (take 10)30: something even the master can only do with luck or time.A master in this system should have a bonus of +10. He can reliably do things, the average person can only do with time or risk of failure.But we are told, there seems to be something like: take stat.In this system, if we assume 3.x + attribute bonuses, you need to think it over:Take stat should be equal to take 10.so: DC 3: even the worst human can do it. (Most probably even under stress)DC 10: same as with take 10. Below average people need more favourable circumstances, while above average people can even do it in unfavourable circumstances -&gt; improvementDC 20: the best human can't reliably do it even in stress. With a little bit skill training or favourable circumstances, he can reliably do it. Maybe a half-orc fighter with maximum strength can do it without this training.A Master who has average stats and a +10 bonus can also do it. The difference is: The master still has a good chance if he has to roll. (55%) The Half orc only has a low (30%) chance.Is it desireable? Maybe. Still have to make up my mind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 5898046, member: 59057"] quite ok. But I guess take 10 should be taken into account: 0: everyone can do it all the time, under pressure or not. (Useless...) 5: Everyone can do it when not under pressure (Assuming take ten and a penalty of -4 max... 10: the average person can do it when not under pressure... 20: the average person can only do it with a lot of time, or luck (take 20) or the average master can reliably do it when not under pressure (take 10) 30: something even the master can only do with luck or time. A master in this system should have a bonus of +10. He can reliably do things, the average person can only do with time or risk of failure. But we are told, there seems to be something like: take stat. In this system, if we assume 3.x + attribute bonuses, you need to think it over: Take stat should be equal to take 10. so: DC 3: even the worst human can do it. (Most probably even under stress) DC 10: same as with take 10. Below average people need more favourable circumstances, while above average people can even do it in unfavourable circumstances -> improvement DC 20: the best human can't reliably do it even in stress. With a little bit skill training or favourable circumstances, he can reliably do it. Maybe a half-orc fighter with maximum strength can do it without this training. A Master who has average stats and a +10 bonus can also do it. The difference is: The master still has a good chance if he has to roll. (55%) The Half orc only has a low (30%) chance. Is it desireable? Maybe. Still have to make up my mind. [/QUOTE]

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