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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4864082" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Swordmage, yo. Swordmage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not the principle at stake. The principle is: Does a player have to forget what trolls do to him whenever he fights a new troll? The answer is, "no, that's stupid." So does a monster have the possibility of having fought a Fighter previously in his life? If it is reasonably plausible the monster might have, then letting this information be available to the monster with a random chance is hardly unfair, nor does it lack versimiliatude.</p><p></p><p>-You- might run your games with monsters completely virgin to the concept of adventurers, but others do not, nor is it necessarily realistic that monsters don't have pre-PC experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Knowledge check, DC 20, +5 paragon tier, +10 epic tier. Straight from the PHB. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it does not mean they do -not- know. A monster -might- know, it IS in the realm of possibility. And as such, adjudicating the knowledge a monster has with a knowledge check is fast, efficient, and it leads to more varied tactical situations.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Combat Challenge is hardly one of those really dark secrets of the universe Vecna'd have trouble knowing about, unless your character is the only fighter in the entire world. Does Vecna know all 1,000,000 names of the Chained God? Maybe not. Does he know the chained god exists at the bottom of the Abyss? Most definately. And -that- is a bigger secret than Combat Challenge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4864082, member: 71571"] Swordmage, yo. Swordmage. That's not the principle at stake. The principle is: Does a player have to forget what trolls do to him whenever he fights a new troll? The answer is, "no, that's stupid." So does a monster have the possibility of having fought a Fighter previously in his life? If it is reasonably plausible the monster might have, then letting this information be available to the monster with a random chance is hardly unfair, nor does it lack versimiliatude. -You- might run your games with monsters completely virgin to the concept of adventurers, but others do not, nor is it necessarily realistic that monsters don't have pre-PC experience. Knowledge check, DC 20, +5 paragon tier, +10 epic tier. Straight from the PHB. But it does not mean they do -not- know. A monster -might- know, it IS in the realm of possibility. And as such, adjudicating the knowledge a monster has with a knowledge check is fast, efficient, and it leads to more varied tactical situations. Combat Challenge is hardly one of those really dark secrets of the universe Vecna'd have trouble knowing about, unless your character is the only fighter in the entire world. Does Vecna know all 1,000,000 names of the Chained God? Maybe not. Does he know the chained god exists at the bottom of the Abyss? Most definately. And -that- is a bigger secret than Combat Challenge. [/QUOTE]
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