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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kilmore" data-source="post: 366371" data-attributes="member: 5226">Well, I'm glad that everyone likes the concept at least.  I think this is a class that can be useful in many campaigns.  As far as criticisms go, keep them coming!  There's a lot of class ideas that I have, and I want to get better at creating them.Thysl, they already have sheild, but yes... I might slip them heavy armor as well.  As far as martial weapons go, I tend to think that full martial proficiency is something that defines the warrior classes (fighter, barbie, ranger, paladin).  Three martial weapons is not a bad selection, in my opinion.  However, this class is still cast in jello, and a good reasoning could easily sway me.  As far as hide, move silently, and read lips go, the courtier may not be as espionage oriented as a dedicated spy (where can I find one of these?), but he's a bit closer in that direction than your typical noble.  Also, these skills are not necessary for all courtiers.Going Native:  I was thinking of Marco Polo and the dude in Shogun with this one.  I was also thinking that in this time period, even neighboring countries would be different enough to justify this ability.  However, thinking about it, it's not something I can see for every courtier, and it's a little weak to boot.  Suggestions?There's a courtier in L5R?Quick or Clever:  Well, he lacks the combat power of most any other PC class, so I wanted to give him a combat related thing to help balance it.  Being that a courtier may often annoy PC's, I didn't want to make him easily squishable.  But I agree, one every two levels is a bit nuts.Influence:  Well, I see a high level courtier as having influence something on the level of Bismark, Disraeli, or Kissinger.  However, I've been thinking that the courtiers' influence may not be a constant, owing to factors such as backing, gaffes, and time in station.  So I'm thinking about making a modifier for this, with the listed influence score being the maximum.  Opinions?I agree that DrNuncheon that more choice in special abilities might be a way to go.  Perhaps make Going Native one of a number of options the courtier can pick up along the way?Hit Points:  He's probably going to make a lot more enemies than your typical D6 character class and he can't sneak away like a rogue.Anyway, I'll wait for a little more input then I'll post a revised version.</blockquote>

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