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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9134000" data-attributes="member: 996">In reverse order:IDK, I have no problem with that conversation. "This is the setting & campaign I want to run, these options fit it, these others don't.  Would you rather play something else, I have quite the backlog?  Or one of you could run..." "oh?  No?  OK...."But, yeah, the point I wasn't making too well, was TSR didn't fix the martial/caster gap - it had balance, of it's own sort from the beginning... magic-users were under-powered and fragile at low levels, wildly OP at high levels, and in-between the grew from contributing to dominating.  Overall, the whole MU experience, was arguably balanced.3.0 broke that by making Casters OP all the time.Insulting eachother, even being impolite, is against the CoC.  Being stupid, confused, or lying, is not.   <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937.png" title="Person shrugging    :person_shrugging:" data-shortname=":person_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />And, no, I don't agree that's the implication.  There shouldn't be an implication about the people making an argument, the argument should be judged on it's merits.  The OP pointed out a potential flaw in reasoning, whether it meets the definition of a fallacy or not, and tried for a catchy label.  Anyway, yes, intelligent people can look at the facts of the Martial/Caster Gap (itself, just another catchy label) and reach different conclusions: that it's not a problem, that it's a highly-desireable feature because casters should be superior, that the DM can just compensate for it, or that it should be fixed in a variety of very different mutually-incompatible ways that may well cause issue of their own. But just denying it, like, "no, casters do not get a large number of varied and powerful daily resources" or, "sure, but martials also get a large number of varied and powerful daily resources?"  No.  Nobody does that.</blockquote>

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