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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 9134267" data-attributes="member: 996">Yes, a half-caster would probably fall short.&nbsp; Though the Paladin is an example of a half-caster capable of support, it's also still very fighty, with it's d10 hd, heavy armor, extra attack, and combat style...The point I was making is that the Warlord has to back off on being so much like a fighter.&nbsp; It's supposed to fight in the front lines, but, like, Clerics can fight in the front lines without benefit of the Fighter's perquisites.&nbsp; You don't need d10 HD and Extra Attack and so forth.That is another point.&nbsp; A &quot;support character&quot; in 5e is a character capable of support, not a character dedicated to it.&nbsp; Full casters can take on some support functions, with healing being the most restricted one (Clerics, Bards, Druids, and the odd Sorcerer? Warlock? sub-class, get healing spells, while Wizard pointedly do not).&nbsp;&nbsp; Even a direct port of a 4e Warlord to 5e would be a trap choice, since it's too focused on that role, and would be an inferior addition to any party compared to a more versatile Cleric/Bard/Druid or the like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 9134267, member: 996"] Yes, a half-caster would [I]probably [/I]fall short. Though the Paladin is an example of a half-caster capable of support, it's also still very fighty, with it's d10 hd, heavy armor, extra attack, and combat style... The point I was making is that the Warlord has to back off on being so much like a fighter. It's supposed to fight in the front lines, but, like, Clerics can fight in the front lines without benefit of the Fighter's perquisites. You don't need d10 HD and Extra Attack and so forth. That is another point. A "support character" in 5e is a character capable of support, not a character dedicated to it. Full casters can take on some support functions, with healing being the most restricted one (Clerics, Bards, Druids, and the odd Sorcerer? Warlock? sub-class, get healing spells, while Wizard pointedly do not). Even a direct port of a 4e Warlord to 5e would be a trap choice, since it's too focused on that role, and would be an inferior addition to any party compared to a more versatile Cleric/Bard/Druid or the like. [/QUOTE]

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