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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 9137451" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>This particular discussion is about bringing lacking classes up to parity, not to make them superior to all others.</p><p>It might be worth reading the example in the original post again.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed. Feats are regarded as too rare and irrevocable in most cases. However other resources that allow you a range of choice in both what you can do, and how you use it allow much more experimentation into more niche and out of combat options.</p><p>Both spell slots and BM maneuvers (when the character has a certain amount) are often spent on out-of-combat capabilities once the character has enough abilities to keep themselves and their companions alive in the usual life-or-death situation that they commonly face.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think he issue was that while for some people the Warblade abilities were too farfetched, more just didn't get the distinction between the Warblade and the <em>actual </em>anime, magical TOB class, the Swordsage. Thus the TOB was labelled as "making warriors anime/magical etc" without understanding that there was a non-anime option.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm pretty sure the whole point of the thread was that comparison within a limited group, or using only limited examples is flawed if the wider picture is needed to give context. There was even another example based on the Vampiric touch spell supplied.</p><p>Unfortunately the initial illustration was a bit of a red flag and the point was obscured in the rush to attack or nitpick the example given.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 9137451, member: 6802951"] This particular discussion is about bringing lacking classes up to parity, not to make them superior to all others. It might be worth reading the example in the original post again. Indeed. Feats are regarded as too rare and irrevocable in most cases. However other resources that allow you a range of choice in both what you can do, and how you use it allow much more experimentation into more niche and out of combat options. Both spell slots and BM maneuvers (when the character has a certain amount) are often spent on out-of-combat capabilities once the character has enough abilities to keep themselves and their companions alive in the usual life-or-death situation that they commonly face. I think he issue was that while for some people the Warblade abilities were too farfetched, more just didn't get the distinction between the Warblade and the [I]actual [/I]anime, magical TOB class, the Swordsage. Thus the TOB was labelled as "making warriors anime/magical etc" without understanding that there was a non-anime option. I'm pretty sure the whole point of the thread was that comparison within a limited group, or using only limited examples is flawed if the wider picture is needed to give context. There was even another example based on the Vampiric touch spell supplied. Unfortunately the initial illustration was a bit of a red flag and the point was obscured in the rush to attack or nitpick the example given. [/QUOTE]
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