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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9137496" data-attributes="member: 6877472">Now that is something I hadn't considered before.&nbsp; WotC claims to not particularly want a &quot;must have&quot; class to exist; they'd rather players play what they want.&nbsp; If a Warlord's force multiplier abilities simply improved any party to the degree that they were considered a &quot;must have&quot;, that would be problematic (for WotC design).Consider that this martial class that acts as a force multiplier without magic has to coexist with classes in a similar role that are 9-level casters (Cleric and Bard)- given WotC is infamously conservative with non-magical abilities to begin with anymore, if you make a Warlord competitive with casters, it would seem like a very powerful class to people who see an issue with caster v. martial balance.If you don't, then it becomes very obvious that it's an underpowered class- either a waste of space, or validation for the caster v. martial debate.TLDR; if Warlord is good or bad, it potentially showcases a weakness in 5e design.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9137496, member: 6877472"] Now that is something I hadn't considered before. WotC claims to not particularly want a "must have" class to exist; they'd rather players play what they want. If a Warlord's force multiplier abilities simply improved any party to the degree that they were considered a "must have", that would be problematic (for WotC design). Consider that this martial class that acts as a force multiplier without magic has to coexist with classes in a similar role that are 9-level casters (Cleric and Bard)- given WotC is infamously conservative with non-magical abilities to begin with anymore, if you make a Warlord competitive with casters, it would seem like a very powerful class to people who see an issue with caster v. martial balance. If you don't, then it becomes very obvious that it's an underpowered class- either a waste of space, or validation for the caster v. martial debate. TLDR; if Warlord is good or bad, it potentially showcases a weakness in 5e design. [/QUOTE]

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