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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Muh" data-source="post: 9138515" data-attributes="member: 7042567">I'm still not convinced it's a subjective problem. I mean the way the discussions are pretty much a constant noise on these forums (and every other D&D related forum) seems to make it actually a thing. I think it might also be indicative that it isn't the same thing at all on the PF2 boards.Edition wars are the only good wars.I dislike the implication that D&D 4E failed because it was balanced, and of course D&D is selling better than PF2. D&D is a much bigger brand.Somewhat simplified:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Martial classes don't grow outside of a few class abilities. Many martials have levels entirely without features.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Magic solves most problems.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Many non-martial classes are functionally eclipsed by other classes in certain configurations.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When you design challenges you have to consider magic, but you almost never have to consider martial classes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Magic can easily deal with non-magical things, but there are few non-magical ways to interact with magic</li> </ul>Noted.Yes, but:1: I, myself, certainly argue that it is a problem.2: Another person who I know agrees that it is a problem (and he thought it was a problem before I did)3: Other people agree with me that it is in fact a problem too.So it's not just two people saying this and DPR is one of the things I don't really think is that relevant. I've played two fighters in D&D and DPR wasn't really the problem. My problems were lack of mobility, it was easy to shut my fighter down, and also the party had a min-maxed bladesinger with an AC in the stratosphere.</blockquote>

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