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<blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 9141940" data-attributes="member: 7035894"><p>This whole thread is built on the premise that martial classes are inferior to spell casting classes, and specifically that fighters are inferior to wizards. While some folks feel this way, this is not a widespread perspective. Consider the following rankings (I just grabbed from the first ones to come up on my Google search):</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://blackcitadelrpg.com/class-tier-list-5e/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.gamingtierlist.com/guides/dungeons-and-dragons-5e-class-tier-list-which-class-is-right-for-you/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/tips-tactics/7108-5e-class-tier-list-a-bit-more-in-depth[/URL]</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://mythcreants.com/blog/dd-5e-classes-ranked-from-worst-to-best/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>My own ranking would be a different from each of these, but that's sort of the point (my number 1 would be paladin, followed by bard). There is just not a broad consensus that agrees with the central premise of this thread. If you look at a lot of tier lists, a sort of overall consensus will appear, but it is not a hard division between spell casting and non-spell casting classes. There is just not a consensus that martial classes are struggling in 5e, or that there is a "crab bucket" with all of them stuck at the bottom and pulling each other down.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Clint_L, post: 9141940, member: 7035894"] This whole thread is built on the premise that martial classes are inferior to spell casting classes, and specifically that fighters are inferior to wizards. While some folks feel this way, this is not a widespread perspective. Consider the following rankings (I just grabbed from the first ones to come up on my Google search): [URL unfurl="true"]https://blackcitadelrpg.com/class-tier-list-5e/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.gamingtierlist.com/guides/dungeons-and-dragons-5e-class-tier-list-which-class-is-right-for-you/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/tips-tactics/7108-5e-class-tier-list-a-bit-more-in-depth[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://mythcreants.com/blog/dd-5e-classes-ranked-from-worst-to-best/[/URL] My own ranking would be a different from each of these, but that's sort of the point (my number 1 would be paladin, followed by bard). There is just not a broad consensus that agrees with the central premise of this thread. If you look at a lot of tier lists, a sort of overall consensus will appear, but it is not a hard division between spell casting and non-spell casting classes. There is just not a consensus that martial classes are struggling in 5e, or that there is a "crab bucket" with all of them stuck at the bottom and pulling each other down. [/QUOTE]
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