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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 9142188" data-attributes="member: 7025508"><p>So a hermit priest of Pelor is a warlock, not a cleric? Why does what sort of organisation you belong affect the metaphysics of your magic?</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not good enough for me, that's the issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then why their magic works completely differntly then? At most I'd imagine this resulting warlock hawing slightly more personalised spelllist compared to the cleric.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why? </p><p></p><p></p><p>But those methods are similar to the other classes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, if you interpret sorcerer broadly enough, i.e. "has magic somehow." But that's really not what sorcerers are about, they're about intuitive innate magic that is part of their being.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Practical questions should be informed by the underlying concepts that the mechnics are attempting to represent. If you don't know what you're even trying to represent the end result will be incoherent.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They learn it from books, they learn magical formulas. That's why they are dependent on their spellbook and can learn magic from scrolls. This is quite different from the sorcerer, whose magic is innate. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes they do. Rapidly recharging magic and always-on magical powers both represent an innately magical being better than the little unique mechanics that the sorcerers have.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You could do that. But you'd need to add the spellbook and scroll learning.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 9142188, member: 7025508"] So a hermit priest of Pelor is a warlock, not a cleric? Why does what sort of organisation you belong affect the metaphysics of your magic? That's not good enough for me, that's the issue. Then why their magic works completely differntly then? At most I'd imagine this resulting warlock hawing slightly more personalised spelllist compared to the cleric. Why? But those methods are similar to the other classes. Sure, if you interpret sorcerer broadly enough, i.e. "has magic somehow." But that's really not what sorcerers are about, they're about intuitive innate magic that is part of their being. Practical questions should be informed by the underlying concepts that the mechnics are attempting to represent. If you don't know what you're even trying to represent the end result will be incoherent. They learn it from books, they learn magical formulas. That's why they are dependent on their spellbook and can learn magic from scrolls. This is quite different from the sorcerer, whose magic is innate. Yes they do. Rapidly recharging magic and always-on magical powers both represent an innately magical being better than the little unique mechanics that the sorcerers have. You could do that. But you'd need to add the spellbook and scroll learning. [/QUOTE]
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