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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9146486" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>I don't even know what, exactly you're arguing any more. That the DMG should be improved? We all agree. The game still holds together though in spite of it, just like D&D took off despite the inscrutable Gygaxian prose and lack of consistency. </p><p></p><p>Or is it that the advice given has grown over the years? Why is that a bad thing? Again, you're arguing something that everyone acknowledges. The core books are not perfect, it's why we hope the 2024 edition will build on what's been learned over the past decade.</p><p></p><p>About the only thing I disagree with is that no single book can possibly be the best source of information for everyone? That I'll disagree with. For some people reading the book is enough because despite what you state they do give a broad outline, just not in as much detail as you might like. But some people will never learn from reading a book or one perspective. Perhaps they need a variety of live streams or blogs or ask questions on forums. I think it's silly to discount all of those sources.</p><p></p><p>D&D does not exist in a vacuum of officially published materials. We have 3PP rules supplements for people that want them, whether that's adding new monsters like Kobold Press, a different take on classes like Morrus's Level Up, rules on Strongholds from Matt Collville, roughly a bazillion other sources on DmsGuild and other sources. Then there are streamed shows, blogs, on and on. There is no way WOTC can, or even should, try to provide all the things those external sources provide.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9146486, member: 6801845"] I don't even know what, exactly you're arguing any more. That the DMG should be improved? We all agree. The game still holds together though in spite of it, just like D&D took off despite the inscrutable Gygaxian prose and lack of consistency. Or is it that the advice given has grown over the years? Why is that a bad thing? Again, you're arguing something that everyone acknowledges. The core books are not perfect, it's why we hope the 2024 edition will build on what's been learned over the past decade. About the only thing I disagree with is that no single book can possibly be the best source of information for everyone? That I'll disagree with. For some people reading the book is enough because despite what you state they do give a broad outline, just not in as much detail as you might like. But some people will never learn from reading a book or one perspective. Perhaps they need a variety of live streams or blogs or ask questions on forums. I think it's silly to discount all of those sources. D&D does not exist in a vacuum of officially published materials. We have 3PP rules supplements for people that want them, whether that's adding new monsters like Kobold Press, a different take on classes like Morrus's Level Up, rules on Strongholds from Matt Collville, roughly a bazillion other sources on DmsGuild and other sources. Then there are streamed shows, blogs, on and on. There is no way WOTC can, or even should, try to provide all the things those external sources provide. [/QUOTE]
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