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<blockquote data-quote="Scribe" data-source="post: 9146595" data-attributes="member: 6807152"><p><img src="https://media3.giphy.com/media/s239QJIh56sRW/200.gif" alt="ryan reynolds hd GIF" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>There are subclasses for Fighters that lean into the Social pillar. There are ways outside of just Class, to solve for this.</p><p></p><p>I 100% have issues with a lot of 5e, but I'm just not seeing any argument, and certainly no fixes proposed, that are moving me in any but the opposite direction of what all these 'buff the martials/fights/non-casters' threads are trying to convince me of.</p><p></p><p>So you give the Fighter some perk for Social. Some 'baseline' ability. You have a Wizard/Warlock/Bard/Sorc in the Party.</p><p></p><p>Who solves for the Social encounter? It aint the fighter unless like a few folks here have outline, they build for it that way, and the RP works that way. Pure crunch mechanical optimization? It will never be the Fighter over those other actual Face classes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you are absolutely giving way too much credit to a tiny group of people, and perhaps ignoring the fact that even still, to this day, the Fighter remains incredibly popular.</p><p></p><p>5e absolutely was designed for a diverse community. There's no way it would have blown up as it has otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scribe, post: 9146595, member: 6807152"] [IMG alt="ryan reynolds hd GIF"]https://media3.giphy.com/media/s239QJIh56sRW/200.gif[/IMG] There are subclasses for Fighters that lean into the Social pillar. There are ways outside of just Class, to solve for this. I 100% have issues with a lot of 5e, but I'm just not seeing any argument, and certainly no fixes proposed, that are moving me in any but the opposite direction of what all these 'buff the martials/fights/non-casters' threads are trying to convince me of. So you give the Fighter some perk for Social. Some 'baseline' ability. You have a Wizard/Warlock/Bard/Sorc in the Party. Who solves for the Social encounter? It aint the fighter unless like a few folks here have outline, they build for it that way, and the RP works that way. Pure crunch mechanical optimization? It will never be the Fighter over those other actual Face classes. I think you are absolutely giving way too much credit to a tiny group of people, and perhaps ignoring the fact that even still, to this day, the Fighter remains incredibly popular. 5e absolutely was designed for a diverse community. There's no way it would have blown up as it has otherwise. [/QUOTE]
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