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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeremy" data-source="post: 388861" data-attributes="member: 4036">Here's one that came up a while ago...A PC wants to create a suit of mithral full plate armor for himself.DC for crafting the suit is 10 + the AC bonus of 8.  DC 18.Cost is 1500 gp or 15,000 sp.DC for it being mithral which is handled as a masterwork item with regard to creation time is flat DC 20.Cost for the mithral/masterwork component is 9000 gp or 90,000 sp.This is a 14th level PC I believe with an additional crew of 5 apprentices helping him.  He has 17 ranks, a +3 intelligence modifier, +2 from masterwork tools, +10 from 5 apprentices aiding him, and he'll be taking 10 for simplicity's sake.So 17+3+2+10+10= a craft check of 42.  42 x 18 = 756 sp of work done per week on the armor.  15,000/756 = 19 weeks or 1/3 of a year + 2 weeks.42 x 20 = 840 sp work per week done on the "masterwork" mithral component.  90,000/840 = 107 weeks or 2.1 years.So 107+19 = 126 weeks = about two and a half years on one suit of armor.That's a hell of a lot of time for 6 men, one of which with super human skill to be working on one suit of armor.  And here's the worst part, the PC is large size.  So the price (and thus the time) is doubled.If we use Caliban's house rule, we could up the DC by 24 and 22 respectively and have 1764 sp of work done per week towards our goal of 105000 bringing our time down to 59.5 weeks or 1.1 years.  That's a little better, but it's still 2.2 years for that suit for Bocata.Our current house rule, due to our lack of mathmatical skill coming up with improvements to formulae is DC x Skill Check = Progess in GP in a week.Meaning it'd take 10 weeks for the "masterwork" mithral component and 2 more weeks for the actual armor for a superhuman mastersmith assisted by 5 other apprentices with masterwork tools.Maybe ours is a little heavy handed, but we can't figure out a better way...Anyways, those are some examples of the numbers I was referring to.</blockquote>

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