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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 1478227" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>Pardon me? I was never talking about you or really even read any of your posts. I just ran across this thread today and was replying to some things Bendris Noulg said. I didn't mean to insult anyone in specific, only a specific style of DM'ing I don't like. Any offense here is what you interpret yourself as being, I don't know anything about your game or how you run it.</p><p></p><p>Barsoom as a D&D setting, hmm. If I recall correctly, Barsoom is an old pulp fantasy setting by Edgar Rice Burroughs where a earth human named John Carter transports himself to Mars (called Barsoom by the natives) by raw force of will. An interesting concept for an RPG (I think it has been done in other systems before). However, I don't know if it would be what many people call "D&D" in the traditional sense without a lot of changes.</p><p></p><p>I think part of this disagreement could be traced to two origins:</p><p>1. Many players expect DM's to be friendly and open when talking about their game, since they want to play in a friendly atmosphere. If you're not that kind of DM, but have players who want to play with you, go right ahead. Not every player and DM are compatible.</p><p>2. When you say "D&D" there are certain things people expect: Paladins & "Vancian" magic, Dragons and Clerics, <em>maybe</em> psionics, Rangers and Bards, Elves and Gnomes, these are all things that make people think "Dungeons and Dragons". When WotC released a very different fantasy d20 game (i.e. Wheel of Time), they didn't release it under the D&D brand. It was a d20 Fantasy game (even "official" since it came from WotC), but it wasn't called D&D and nobody was upset it didn't have Elves and Clerics.</p><p></p><p>A GM can make his settings as unique as he wants, but to prevent misleading players perhaps he should just refer to it as [setting name] d20, or [setting name] RPG or something. If you didn't call your Barsoom game "D&D" (which I presume that you are, since that appears to be part of the problem from what I can see) then probably there wouldn't be as much confusion/resentment about all the restrictions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 1478227, member: 14159"] Pardon me? I was never talking about you or really even read any of your posts. I just ran across this thread today and was replying to some things Bendris Noulg said. I didn't mean to insult anyone in specific, only a specific style of DM'ing I don't like. Any offense here is what you interpret yourself as being, I don't know anything about your game or how you run it. Barsoom as a D&D setting, hmm. If I recall correctly, Barsoom is an old pulp fantasy setting by Edgar Rice Burroughs where a earth human named John Carter transports himself to Mars (called Barsoom by the natives) by raw force of will. An interesting concept for an RPG (I think it has been done in other systems before). However, I don't know if it would be what many people call "D&D" in the traditional sense without a lot of changes. I think part of this disagreement could be traced to two origins: 1. Many players expect DM's to be friendly and open when talking about their game, since they want to play in a friendly atmosphere. If you're not that kind of DM, but have players who want to play with you, go right ahead. Not every player and DM are compatible. 2. When you say "D&D" there are certain things people expect: Paladins & "Vancian" magic, Dragons and Clerics, [i]maybe[/i] psionics, Rangers and Bards, Elves and Gnomes, these are all things that make people think "Dungeons and Dragons". When WotC released a very different fantasy d20 game (i.e. Wheel of Time), they didn't release it under the D&D brand. It was a d20 Fantasy game (even "official" since it came from WotC), but it wasn't called D&D and nobody was upset it didn't have Elves and Clerics. A GM can make his settings as unique as he wants, but to prevent misleading players perhaps he should just refer to it as [setting name] d20, or [setting name] RPG or something. If you didn't call your Barsoom game "D&D" (which I presume that you are, since that appears to be part of the problem from what I can see) then probably there wouldn't be as much confusion/resentment about all the restrictions. [/QUOTE]
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