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<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 1478352" data-attributes="member: 6398">Actually, I think it's the opposite: People assume D&amp;D when this is, in fact, a forum called General RPG Discussion.&nbsp;In addition, the previous Editions have a previously established standard that divergence from the Core is still D&amp;D (Planescape, Birthright, Dark Sun, Ravenloft, etc.), so the idea that D&amp;D means Core Only as an &quot;official&quot; view is, again, something new to the &quot;3E Culture&quot;. (Yes, I know some folks, including EGG, held the opposite view, but how do you argue with a half-dozen published settings with the D&amp;D logo on it?&nbsp; Come to think of it, don't Ravenloft and Kalamar still have the D&amp;D logo?&nbsp; Why, yes, they do...&nbsp; And Athas.org still has the 3E logo on it...&nbsp; And the recent Dark Sun article wasn't a d20 Minigame, as Spelljammer was, but a &quot;D&amp;D setting update&quot;.)&nbsp;So, there are, in my view, two problems...&nbsp;1. The assumption that any time a thread begins regarding fantasy elements, D&amp;D is incorrectly used as a standard of comparison.2. The assumption that anytime anyone says D&amp;D that it's in reference to the specific conditions of the d20 System established in the Core Rulebooks.&nbsp;For instance, in plugging for my 4th Group, I'm posting it as the &quot;Aedon RPG&quot;.&nbsp; However, for me and my friends, we still call it &quot;D&amp;D night&quot;.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because the two are one and the same.&nbsp; See, the &quot;default setting&quot; is just that: &quot;default&quot;.&nbsp; It's like when you buy a car and there are channels preset on the car stereo.&nbsp; You change the settings, the bass level, the treble, possibly balance and fade, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a stereo.&nbsp; So we don't exactly see Aedon as not being D&amp;D, but rather D&amp;D with conditions that aren't &quot;default&quot;.&nbsp;(Well, that and Aedon is being &quot;fan published&quot; under the OGL and it would be, technically, illegal to post it as a D&amp;D game, but that's an entirely different can of worms, ain't it?)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 1478352, member: 6398"] Actually, I think it's the opposite: People assume D&D when this is, in fact, a forum called [b]General RPG Discussion[/b]. In addition, the previous Editions have a previously established standard that divergence from the Core is still D&D (Planescape, Birthright, Dark Sun, Ravenloft, etc.), so the idea that D&D means Core Only as an "official" view is, again, something new to the "3E Culture". (Yes, I know some folks, including EGG, held the opposite view, but how do you argue with a half-dozen published settings with the D&D logo on it? Come to think of it, don't Ravenloft and Kalamar [i]still[/i] have the D&D logo? Why, yes, they do... And Athas.org still has the 3E logo on it... And the recent Dark Sun article wasn't a d20 Minigame, as Spelljammer was, but a "D&D setting update".) So, there are, in my view, two problems... 1. The assumption that any time a thread begins regarding fantasy elements, D&D is [i]incorrectly[/i] used as a standard of comparison. 2. The assumption that anytime anyone says D&D that it's in reference to the specific conditions of the d20 System established in the Core Rulebooks. For instance, in plugging for my 4th Group, I'm posting it as the "Aedon RPG". However, for me and my friends, we still call it "D&D night". Why? Because the two are one and the same. See, the "default setting" is just that: "default". It's like when you buy a car and there are channels preset on the car stereo. You change the settings, the bass level, the treble, possibly balance and fade, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a stereo. So we don't exactly see Aedon as not being D&D, but rather D&D with conditions that aren't "default". (Well, that and Aedon is being "fan published" under the OGL and it would be, technically, illegal to post it as a D&D game, but that's an entirely different can of worms, ain't it?) [/QUOTE]

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