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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 1479091" data-attributes="member: 14159">Kingdoms of Kalamar did exist as a fantasy RPG product in 2e days, but not as D&amp;D.&nbsp; It was a generic non-system fantasy world produced by KenzerCo (I looked up ads in the back of old issues of Knights of the Dinner table where they advertised it to be sure).&nbsp; It was generic enough that the core 2e rules could be directly used with minimal tweaking, if any.&nbsp; However, it did not have any official license from WotC or TSR ever before 3e.&nbsp; When 3e came out they bought a &quot;D&amp;D&quot; License and re-released the product.I know a lot of people don't respect the Kalamar setting as &quot;official&quot; because while it carries the &quot;Dungeons and Dragons&quot; name, it isn't from WotC and it's core book has no system-specific mechanics that make the game &quot;D&amp;D&quot;.&nbsp; The original Kalamar D&amp;D book was so &quot;crunch free&quot; that it had almost no system-specific mechanics, even things that mesh directly with Core Rules (I remember them having to post on their website the domains for the various deities domains/alignments/favored weapons because they aren't in the book), so it didn't even really feel like D&amp;D and it had nothing you could export even if you didn't want to play in the Kalamar setting.&nbsp; At least with Dragonlance or the Realms you could export Spells, Domains, Monsters, Classes, Feats, and other &quot;crunchy&quot; bits.&nbsp; Personally, I love the Noble and Mystic from Dragonlance in other settings, but even before DL I had a D&amp;D conversion of the Star Wars &amp; Wheel of Time noble class, because I really believe that Noble should be a core class as a popular fantasy archetype.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 1479091, member: 14159"] Kingdoms of Kalamar did exist as a fantasy RPG product in 2e days, but not as D&D. It was a generic non-system fantasy world produced by KenzerCo (I looked up ads in the back of old issues of Knights of the Dinner table where they advertised it to be sure). It was generic enough that the core 2e rules could be directly used with minimal tweaking, if any. However, it did not have any official license from WotC or TSR ever before 3e. When 3e came out they bought a "D&D" License and re-released the product. I know a lot of people don't respect the Kalamar setting as "official" because while it carries the "Dungeons and Dragons" name, it isn't from WotC and it's core book has no system-specific mechanics that make the game "D&D". The original Kalamar D&D book was so "crunch free" that it had almost no system-specific mechanics, even things that mesh directly with Core Rules (I remember them having to post on their website the domains for the various deities domains/alignments/favored weapons because they aren't in the book), so it didn't even really feel like D&D and it had nothing you could export even if you didn't want to play in the Kalamar setting. At least with Dragonlance or the Realms you could export Spells, Domains, Monsters, Classes, Feats, and other "crunchy" bits. Personally, I love the Noble and Mystic from Dragonlance in other settings, but even before DL I had a D&D conversion of the Star Wars & Wheel of Time noble class, because I really believe that Noble should be a core class as a popular fantasy archetype. [/QUOTE]

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