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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RiggsWolfe" data-source="post: 1344054" data-attributes="member: 2734">And why must it apply to you in specific? At this point I probably need to go back and reread my original post, but basically what I was saying was there are people who do it because it is fun, and there are people who do it as something else. I believe I did say intellectual stimulation. I was thinking of that guy with the English degree I worked with, as well as a terrible creative writing professor I once had and one or two other encounters in the English department at 2 Universities and 1 junior college. I was thinking of, for lack of a better term, the academic reader. Those who feel a need to analyze everything they read, to find some hidden metaphor about society in it. I'm having trouble organizing my thoughts on, probably has something to do with the wine.No, what you are showing is that the generalization apparently doesn't apply to you. I don't know yet if I agree. I don't know you well enough. And WHY is it inferior? What specifically about it is inferior? As for you implying that those who like King aren't discerning readers, never said you did. I said that that implication can be drawn, depending on the tone of the person who is involved in the discussion. I think for instance, that the writer of that Website is one of these elitists I speak of, and I think he does imply that those who like the types of fiction he mentions are somehow inferior. Yes and no. It is possible to say I like A better than B with no insult. I like Star Wars better than Star Trek. No insult.However, if I say, for instance, Star Trek is an inferior form of entertainment, I can gurantee you some people will be offended, and part of that offense, will be that they will feel I am implying they don't know good entertainment when they see it. A double negative might be a positive. On the other hand it could be seen as noncomittal...Throwing the word Ergo in there does not make it logical analysis. You are trying to make this sound like:My argument is If A then Not B(If you are reading for enjoyment you are not reading for intellectual stimulation.)However, what I really said wasThere are generally two types of people:A and B.A is the one who reads for funB is the one we've come to term the snob.I believe the website writer falls into the B column. I don't believe it's impossible to be both and never said I do. I said in general this is what you have. *sigh* you only quoted part of my reply and part of what I was replying to. I was meaning the comment about everybody being a moderate. That's what the whole rest of my paragraph was about. Please don't resort to editing replies to try to make things look different than they are. I think you're intelligent enough to know what my entire written paragraph there was replying to. It was blatantly obvious.Can you prove it IS true? How does you believe it's true make it true?For one thing, I wasn't truly trying to talk about individuals, I was trying to talk about readers in general, as a sort of mass group. Your statement, again, to use politics as a metaphor, is like saying that because a moderate exists it is useless to talk about people's politics in terms of Liberal and Conservative.To put it another way, you're trying to argue Quantum Mechanics (the small picture) while I'm arguing Relativity (the big picture) Indeed? Then what kinds of logical distinctions would you make?Hemingway had his chance with me. Twice. I forced myself to finish both novels. As for the book about bullfighting I rarely read non-fiction unless it is Science or Occult. Though, arguably, depending on your viewpoint, the last might be fiction. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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