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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9564196" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Because people used it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over as an insult, openly and intentionally. Dismissing anything anyone might enjoy from it because it's a computer game, so it's rigid, incapable of doing anything other than the one specific thing it is instructed to do; it's mindless, just a "grindfest" with no thought or creativity or responsiveness from the player; and because it's a massively multiplayer game, it's cheap lowest-common-denominator drivel and trash, not engaging imaginative fantasy; etc., etc., etc.That's why 4e fans react so negatively. We've dealt with literally 15 years of people using this as a wedge issue to "prove" that 4e could never have been D&D. To "prove" that 4e is mindless and stupid and antagonistic to creativity and (this is an exact quote) "impossible to roleplay". To "prove" that it's nothing more than button-mashing and user-interface and "paying a monthly sub" rather than being a REAL gamer who uses REAL creativity etc. etc.Like, to put this into perspective: Imagine how Superman fans feel when, after decade upon decade of people deriding their favorite superhero as "boring" and "pointless" etc., they talk with a new person who has critical thoughts about (say) the DCAU Superman character, but they open with, "I know Superman is mostly not very interesting to watch, but..."You're almost certainly going to push a berserk button. Even if you don't mean a single negative thing by it, you are explicitly using a phrase that was and still is used ALL the time as a naked insult.The problem with this is, you invented all of those powers. You didn't look them up. I guarantee that you didn't. Mostly because there is no such Fighter power. Period. I can guarantee you that no such Fighter power exists, despite not having an encyclopedic knowledge thereof. I will look it up myself after posting this to confirm, and if I find such a power, I will explicitly and directly apologize and concede this point, not just to you, but to anyone else who ever makes it. That's how supremely confident I am that you are simply, flatly incorrect.Ah. yes. This again.I have no time nor patience for those who claim that 4e isn't D&D. I will not respond to this argument beyond these two sentences, because it's always been a trash argument from day 1, no matter how much you couch it in delicate phrasing.It didn't fail, except by failing to meet utterly unreasonable production targets. But it's not hard to see why you would continue pushing this claim.Yes. I put a significant load of blame on those utterly craptacular, execrable adventures.Guess who was a lead author on several of them?Mike Mearls. I didn't specify it earlier, though I alluded to it. May as well spell it out now.You can, I think, understand better why I have such a low opinion of his design acumen.</blockquote>

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