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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 9565641" data-attributes="member: 6879661">This post makes it clear that the antagonism clearly comes from both sides. I’ve never thought of any alternative system or its players as the ‘enemy’. Competitor is a much better word.That list doesn’t seem easy at all.I can see boredom with 5e being a reason people would seek alternatives. 4e being a possible one but it doesn’t explain why 4e is the one they chose rather than one of one of the many live systems.Again you’re saying that Pathfinder 2 uses 4e concepts but in which case why not play Pathfinder 2 and if you don’t like Pathfinder 2 why you go back, unless it was specifically the 4e elements you like - which brings us back to the previous point.Lack of haters doesn’t make sense to me. This thread has shown that hasn’t really changed. We played pathfinder because 4e wasn’t to our taste and we really liked Pathfinder. Taking Pathfinder away doesn’t change the first point. When it comes to us shouting down proponents of 4e I don’t see that. I see very specific bickering about points that don’t really have much to do with the game itself.Clearer rules? Formatting aside (4e core books were horrendous to read - half of each book feels like it’s written in boxed text). I don’t see how that would make a person want to play the game over other systems. I find it hard to believe people are turning away from 5e because the rules aren’t clear. Corner cases aside. Plus there are many games simpler than 4e.</blockquote>

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