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<blockquote data-quote="Joshua Randall" data-source="post: 9567791" data-attributes="member: 7737">The gameplay experience is great and wonderful for me and other 4e fans.No, at this point I want hypothetical 4e.2025 to double, triple, and quadruple down on DESTROYING community &quot;goodwill&quot;. I am 100% serious. I want 4e.2025 to be the most clearly &quot;not for you&quot; version of D&amp;D there has ever been. I want it to be proudly, defiantly different.I want 4e.2025 to offer as much goodwill to the &quot;community&quot; as the community has offered to it, which is to say, exactly zero.So I am speaking out of both sides of my mouth here because why not, we're just daydreaming. I want both(A) a complete retro-clone of 4e that changes nothing and serves as a foundation for the 4eSR(B) an in-your-face 4e.2025 that takes that foundation and extends it even further in the direction of awesomeness, despite what the &quot;community&quot; thinks about it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Joshua Randall, post: 9567791, member: 7737"] The gameplay experience is great and wonderful for me and other 4e fans. No, at this point I want hypothetical 4e.2025 to double, triple, and quadruple down on DESTROYING community "goodwill". I am 100% serious. I want 4e.2025 to be the most clearly "not for you" version of D&D there has ever been. I want it to be proudly, defiantly different. I want 4e.2025 to offer as much goodwill to the "community" as the community has offered to it, which is to say, exactly zero. So I am speaking out of both sides of my mouth here because why not, we're just daydreaming. I want both (A) a complete retro-clone of 4e that changes nothing and serves as a foundation for the 4eSR (B) an in-your-face 4e.2025 that takes that foundation and extends it even further in the direction of awesomeness, despite what the "community" thinks about it. [/QUOTE]

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