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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 7908685" data-attributes="member: 518">I can't rate it on a simple easy to complex scale- So my ranking is for complexity at first to complexity over time for PC and DMs as well as amount of rules referencing over time (general inclusive, not split up)Any TSR D&D- Complex at first because it's not intuitive and the sub systems differ roll D6, roll d20, Roll percentiles, Lower is better, Higher is better, blah blah). Easy over time- with B/X being easier still and 1E being most difficult. *Rules referencing- moderate at first,  moderate over time for AD&D- Moderate/low for OD&D/Variants. Granted- Lots of rulings, not rules - feature, not a bug AFAIC.3.0- Easy to learn the basics, moderately complex over time for players, complex over time for DMs. Rules referencing-moderate at first, high over time.3.5- easy to learn the basics, most complex over time for players and DM. Rules referencing-moderately high at first, high over time.4E- Moderately complex at first for players (Info overload on character sheet/at creation) . Moderately complex for DM at first. Easy over time for Players/DM. Rules referencing- moderately high at first, Low over time.5E- Easy to learn basics- moderately complex over time for both PC/DM. Rules referencing-moderate at first moderate to high over time. *I'm including at table things like spell lookups, PC abilities, monster manual for special attacks, conditions, etc.</blockquote>