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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7921077" data-attributes="member: 6704184">It works without any adjustment, “right out of the box”, for one thing. Only 5e can also claim that (IMO), and not nearly to the same extent. Also, IMO complexity is partly about usability, and how often you have to examine a combination of game elements to make sure the game isn’t likely to break from them. 4e basically just...doesn’t have that. As a DM, you can literally just choose to never look at anyone’s character sheets, and it will be fine. (A good DM IMO still does in order to build more engaging challenges, but that’s separate from complexity)Another factor is the ease of use of encounter building.Another is the fact that the format of classes is the same, so everyone’s numbers go up at the same time, everyone gets powers on the same recharge schedule, etc.Even things like conditions were simple, the skill list was simple, the only real complexity was complexity in the individual powers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7921077, member: 6704184"] It works without any adjustment, “right out of the box”, for one thing. Only 5e can also claim that (IMO), and not nearly to the same extent. Also, IMO complexity is partly about usability, and how often you have to examine a combination of game elements to make sure the game isn’t likely to break from them. 4e basically just...doesn’t have that. As a DM, you can literally just choose to never look at anyone’s character sheets, and it will be fine. (A good DM IMO still does in order to build more engaging challenges, but that’s separate from complexity) Another factor is the ease of use of encounter building. Another is the fact that the format of classes is the same, so everyone’s numbers go up at the same time, everyone gets powers on the same recharge schedule, etc. Even things like conditions were simple, the skill list was simple, the only real complexity was complexity in the individual powers. [/QUOTE]

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